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Post by janie on Jun 20, 2006 19:54:44 GMT -5
schadenfreude \SHOD-n-froy-duh\, noun: A malicious satisfaction obtained from the misfortunes of others. :satan: In this thread, I look forward to some healthy malicious gloating when players I don't like: lose badly, especially after bragging or whining; generally misbehave; or get in trouble for sticking their annoying feet in their unsavory mouths. I am hoping that nonpareil of tennis, Miss Alexandra Stevenson, who has already brought a lot of laughs to this year's proceedings , will help us open this thread by providing us with an opportunity -- and soon -- for some early Wimbledon Schadenfreude this year. Naturally, everyone is welcome to post their own Wimby-related Schadenfreude sentiments here, too. But if not, I can probably fill up the thread myself, because I am full of bottled-up sports malice just waiting for an outlet ... ;D
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Post by janie on Jun 20, 2006 19:56:10 GMT -5
And yes, I DID just learn this word. ;D
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Post by shenaynay on Jun 20, 2006 21:03:57 GMT -5
Players I am wishing misfortune on: 1. Penis Williams. She must lose 1st round, 0-6 0-6, and put on another classic peformance like she did against Sesil last year, to make up for the agony she put us through last year. 2. Mopey Murray. He should be higher. He REALLY needs to lose 1st round. The hype will never die for this asshole. Ugh. Andy's actually made me long for the many years of Timbledon. 3. Maria Sharapova. Because she's Maria. And we need a miracle for her or Pee not to win. The Mashara hype needs to continue to die a bit. 4. St. KFC. Because she's Kim. There need be no other reason. 5. Alexandra Erving. She's not qualifying, anyway. More later probably!
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 5:02:37 GMT -5
Excellent list, Leena! ;D Though my own list also includes the odious Chip Hewitt.
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Post by GoDom on Jun 21, 2006 5:50:32 GMT -5
Dokic
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 5:57:26 GMT -5
heh, I knew Dokic's loss would invoke some schadenfreude on this board. ;D I like her, but hey, people who don't like her are the ones who get to gloat this time. THIS time!
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Post by GoDom on Jun 21, 2006 6:45:21 GMT -5
heh, I knew Dokic's loss would invoke some schadenfreude on this board. ;D I like her, but hey, people who don't like her are the ones who get to gloat this time. THIS time! Well it's not the first time. I just don't get what's going on inside her head. This match is just one more example. If there is one thing that you mustn't do against Alex, it is giving her free points. Dokic, however, decides to double-fault the match away. And not because of nerves, but because she most likely tried to hit those second serves as hard as possible. She has no tennis brain at all. She is so ... dumb. I mean, her life has certainly been rough but there are just so many things about her that don't make any sense. So I have to laugh, I can't help it. Her idiotic fans (not you, janie) don't help either.
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 6:53:52 GMT -5
JD's2nd serve was SO effective back whenever it was that she beat #1 Hingis in the first round of Wimbledon. Don't know what happened. Oh, well, at least she gives the teenagers at wtaworld something to quarrel about when the Williams sisters, Maria, and Justine aren't playing. At least Dokic is actually trying to play, so their crazy interest makes more sense than this pointless obsession they've got with the long-departed Kourni.
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Post by GoDom on Jun 21, 2006 7:11:05 GMT -5
You mean Anna "I dreamt about playing tennis last night" Kournikova?
Those articles and the ensuing reactions are ridiculous for sure. But Dokic is not much better in my opinion. Okay, she is playing (sporadically). But so far I just can't see it as a serious attempt to get back to a decent level.
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 8:50:46 GMT -5
Still better than outright lying, a la AK. JD did hire a coach recently, which to me means she's serious. But we'll know by the end of the year. If she doesn't start showing up on a LOT of Challenger entry lists soon, I'll concede the argument.
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Post by DBBN on Jun 21, 2006 9:03:25 GMT -5
GoDom! How dare you take joy in other people's misery! That is so low. IMO.
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 9:16:59 GMT -5
It is indeed very bad and evil to take pleasure in the misery of others. Except in sports, where it's a fan requirement. ;D
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 9:25:28 GMT -5
ALEX GOES DOWN ........... one day too late, but hey! We can't control these things! Please never come back, Alex!
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Post by GoDom on Jun 21, 2006 9:36:30 GMT -5
GoDom! How dare you take joy in other people's misery! That is so low. IMO. I knew you would post this. Very very low. I do not take joy out of Jelena's misery, which is having a nutty father and coming from a troubled country. I do take joy out of her inability to do anything of sense on court, her unnecessarily amateurish 'attempts' of coming back to a decent level, and a loss to Stevenson out of all people. Alicia, for example, has none of these. She has had, however, a nasty illness, which is about the only reason preventing her from playing good tennis. For Dokic, there a like a million reasons. If you can't see the difference then you are beyond hope.
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Post by GoDom on Jun 21, 2006 9:38:04 GMT -5
Stevenson
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 9:48:53 GMT -5
GoDom! How dare you take joy in other people's misery! That is so low. IMO. I knew you would post this. Very very low. I do not take joy out of Jelena's misery, which is having a nutty father and coming from a troubled country. I do take joy out of her inability to do anything of sense on court, her unnecessarily amateurish 'attempts' of coming back to a decent level, and a loss to Stevenson out of all people. Alicia, for example, has none of these. She has had, however, a nasty illness, which is about the only reason preventing her from playing good tennis. For Dokic, there a like a million reasons. If you can't see the difference then you are beyond hope. Hurley was kidding! Taking joy in other people's misery is the whole point of this thread. Being able to give full reign to a normal human reaction that has to be severely suppressed in ordinary life is one of the great, great pleasures of sports-fandom. Seize the day, GoDom! ;D
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Post by GoDom on Jun 21, 2006 9:59:20 GMT -5
He wasn't. Please read the thread "Wild Card Thread" for further information. Whatever. I see the point of laughing at Stevenson because she makes ridiculous claims that her results don't live up to at all. That is ... funny. The same goes for quite a few other players. If it's just about their fans, well that is a bit low, but I'm guilty of that too. In other cases, I don't see anything funny/ironic/Alanis-ironic, so what's the point. Nothing wrong with trying to keep a tiny bit of dignity in all the laughter, IMO.
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 10:11:05 GMT -5
Okay, maybe I was wrong about Hurley; I don't know. I shouldn't have spoken for him. I want people to feel free to express the reactions this thread is for. Having a separate thread for it allows people who frown on such reactions to steer clear. It's similar the old Bashing thread on Sid's board, except this one is specifically about Wimbledon players and enjoying the bad things that happen to them.
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 10:25:20 GMT -5
From an article about yesterday's match: " The temperamental, overweight American received a code violation warning for repeatedly screaming at the chair umpire that a ball was "f---ing out". Stevenson won, somehow, 4-6, 7-6 (7-5), 6-2."
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Jun 21, 2006 10:33:16 GMT -5
Following players must not win the title:
Venus Williams Kim Clijsters Amelie Mauresmo Daniela Hantuchova (I know it's not happening anyway, but whatever) Nicole Vaidisova
Everybody else is just fine.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jun 21, 2006 11:22:19 GMT -5
JD's2nd serve was SO effective back whenever it was that she beat #1 Hingis in the first round of Wimbledon. Don't know what happened. Oh, well, at least she gives the teenagers at wtaworld something to quarrel about when the Williams sisters, Maria, and Justine aren't playing. At least Dokic is actually trying to play, so their crazy interest makes more sense than this pointless obsession they've got with the long-departed Kourni. I don't understand players who can't serve. After I blew my shoulder out two years ago, it took me a really long time to get back to serving at a high level, and I pretty much had to reteach myself how to serve. But with enough work, it happens. As for a second serve, if you're really struggling, slice it. It will be a shit serve, but you can't miss. Better than a double fault. That's why I just can't understand players like Dokic and Dementieva, and why they have 20 doubles in a match.
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Post by janie on Jun 21, 2006 12:20:15 GMT -5
Nobody else understands it, either.
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Post by DBBN on Jun 21, 2006 16:21:38 GMT -5
If you can't see the difference then you are beyond hope. So...it's okay for you to root against Dokic, who has had as much strife as Molik and relatively close to as much strife as Seles, because, in your opinion, her tennis sucks, but it's not okay for me to root against Molik even though, in my opinion, her tennis sucks. Because in your opinion her tennis rulezzz. And she got big boobs. Oh. Well, I'll keep that in mind next time I select my barracking position for future players.
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Post by shenaynay on Jun 21, 2006 21:46:17 GMT -5
JD's2nd serve was SO effective back whenever it was that she beat #1 Hingis in the first round of Wimbledon. Don't know what happened. Oh, well, at least she gives the teenagers at wtaworld something to quarrel about when the Williams sisters, Maria, and Justine aren't playing. At least Dokic is actually trying to play, so their crazy interest makes more sense than this pointless obsession they've got with the long-departed Kourni. I don't understand players who can't serve. After I blew my shoulder out two years ago, it took me a really long time to get back to serving at a high level, and I pretty much had to reteach myself how to serve. But with enough work, it happens. As for a second serve, if you're really struggling, slice it. It will be a shit serve, but you can't miss. Better than a double fault. That's why I just can't understand players like Dokic and Dementieva, and why they have 20 doubles in a match. It's 100% mental. At least with Demented and Coria. Plus, there is a big difference having a weak 2nd serve in the world level stage.
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Post by shenaynay on Jun 21, 2006 21:47:17 GMT -5
Plus, I should note that I'm starting to not hate Niki. I wouldn't even mind if she won here. She just needs to like not do anything really bratty or annoying, to keep this up.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jun 21, 2006 22:01:00 GMT -5
1. Penis E. E. Williams - Just get out. She needs to come with the Praying Mantis forehand in rare form, and then fall on her face while hitting a second serve. And then have Brenda in the stands, pointing and laughing at her.
2. KFC - Breaks leg for the fifth time, retires. But back in time for Hasselt.
3. Robby Ginepri - I'm sorry, but I enjoy watching this train wreck.
4. Maria Sharapova - A loss around the 4r would be good. And something ugly, too. Like to Tranny.
5. Roger Federer - I know I'm alone here, but, whatever.
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Post by vaiva on Jun 22, 2006 7:06:40 GMT -5
Excellent thread, janie! I knew I could count on you. I will wholeheartedly cheer all minor and major misfortunes of: Queens Vee and Maria, St. Kim, Molik and Anna-the-wall Plus Poo, Mopey M and B twins. Cannot think of anyone else
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Post by DBBN on Jun 22, 2006 8:06:00 GMT -5
Now that Pratt has qualified, she needs to DIE DIE DIE and I will LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!
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Post by DevilishAttitude on Jun 22, 2006 12:11:28 GMT -5
JD's2nd serve was SO effective back whenever it was that she beat #1 Hingis in the first round of Wimbledon. Don't know what happened. Oh, well, at least she gives the teenagers at wtaworld something to quarrel about when the Williams sisters, Maria, and Justine aren't playing. At least Dokic is actually trying to play, so their crazy interest makes more sense than this pointless obsession they've got with the long-departed Kourni. I don't understand players who can't serve. After I blew my shoulder out two years ago, it took me a really long time to get back to serving at a high level, and I pretty much had to reteach myself how to serve. But with enough work, it happens. As for a second serve, if you're really struggling, slice it. It will be a shit serve, but you can't miss. Better than a double fault. That's why I just can't understand players like Dokic and Dementieva, and why they have 20 doubles in a match. Having a bad serve myself, I know how they feel. Some days my serve is fine, but others it's so bad. When you serve badly, your 2nd is under pressure and with me, I just have no control on it. It's either slowly falls into the net or sails long But saying that, my serve is self-taught and I've never had training on it unlike the pros.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jun 22, 2006 12:27:43 GMT -5
I don't understand players who can't serve. After I blew my shoulder out two years ago, it took me a really long time to get back to serving at a high level, and I pretty much had to reteach myself how to serve. But with enough work, it happens. As for a second serve, if you're really struggling, slice it. It will be a shit serve, but you can't miss. Better than a double fault. That's why I just can't understand players like Dokic and Dementieva, and why they have 20 doubles in a match. Having a bad serve myself, I know how they feel. Some days my serve is fine, but others it's so bad. When you serve badly, your 2nd is under pressure and with me, I just have no control on it. It's either slowly falls into the net or sails long But saying that, my serve is self-taught and I've never had training on it unlike the pros. Slice it. Like I said, the thing will be slow, but if you can slice it well, 99% of the time it goes in, and if placed well, with some side spin, can screw up the return.
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