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Post by lexpretend on Aug 15, 2008 11:26:31 GMT -5
Blake was always going to be destined to pull a Myskina. His whining in the BBC report goes on for three paragraphs.
My flatmate is Chilean, so I guess this means I'm supporting Fernando.
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Post by The Chloe on Aug 15, 2008 11:27:28 GMT -5
That sounds boring. If it were me, I'd intentionally root for the other guy.
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Post by lexpretend on Aug 15, 2008 11:31:58 GMT -5
He has the stockpile of Chilean wine.
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Post by GoDom on Aug 15, 2008 11:37:09 GMT -5
Nadal win win.
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Post by The Chloe on Aug 15, 2008 11:46:21 GMT -5
Maybe.
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Aug 15, 2008 11:55:49 GMT -5
And for once I root for Novak and he loses. He cried so much, poor thing.
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Post by Traveling Man on Aug 15, 2008 11:56:39 GMT -5
I'll root for Gonzo to win gold and Nole for the bronze. Imagine if Gonzo wins gold and Blake wins bronze and they have to stand next to each other for the ceremony. That'd be funny in a perverse sense. Hee. Okay it doesn't take much to amuse me.
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Post by The Chloe on Aug 15, 2008 12:34:07 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Fed and Stan The Man won their doubles semifinal match. They seemed content with this.
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Post by sasha on Aug 15, 2008 14:11:09 GMT -5
It's not similar.
Justine unquestionably lied and cheated, with a complete lack of morality.
I doubt Gorila even knew he hit the ball, and he definitely could not be sure he did. He was pulling back, thus loosening his grip, and there was minimal contact. You still feel force on a hard shot that just misses your racquet. Blake plays a lot more tennis than I do, so he knows these things.
On top of that, it was an obvious out ball, which brings more morality questions into play.
To conclude, Blake is being a whiny bitchcakes by insulting Gorila like he is.
Yeah, that ending was tough. Missing the easiest overhead possible to lose. Plus, Novak was playing better and appeared to have control of the match.
He should have some anger sex with Ana.
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Post by The Chloe on Aug 15, 2008 17:55:32 GMT -5
I don't think Gonzo did anything wrong. But tell that to the 67235364354 people who are still whining about it.
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Post by GoDom on Aug 15, 2008 18:31:44 GMT -5
I am pretty sure Gonzales was aware of the contact.
He did something wrong if not correcting a false ruling in your favour is wrong. Do I believe one should always do this? Yes. Have I always done this? No. The vast majority of the time, yes. But not always.
I mean, Graf most likely knew the ball was on the line. She could have taught the trash-talking Swiss teen a lesson in humility by correcting the call. She chose a different road, and let's face it, it was more fun this way.
In any case, the most annoying thing is that the people who rant and whine about morality in cases like this one are usually armchair "fans" who have never done any competitive sport in their life and have no clue at all. If you go pro in tennis and decide to never correct decisions in your favour AND not to expect it from your opponents, then that's fine by me.
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Post by DBBN on Aug 15, 2008 21:48:11 GMT -5
Vamos Rafa. Though silver would be fine too.
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Post by R. Black on Aug 15, 2008 21:53:15 GMT -5
Why are we still talking about that. Players play, and umpires make decisions. The umpire gave the point to Gonzales. The end.
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Post by DBBN on Aug 15, 2008 22:43:16 GMT -5
It's funny how stupid it sounds when it's about two players I don't really care about. But replace one with Justine and WATCH OUT HERE I COME!!!
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Aug 15, 2008 22:52:03 GMT -5
LOL, yeah. I should probably be defending Gonzales but I don't really care. ;D
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Post by Traveling Man on Aug 16, 2008 7:01:01 GMT -5
Nole wins bronze 6-3, 7-6 over Blake. Glad he gets a medal after the loss yesterday (IIRC, someone posted he cried).
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Post by DBBN on Aug 16, 2008 11:45:03 GMT -5
Oh, yay!
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Post by DBBN on Aug 16, 2008 11:45:24 GMT -5
And Fed/Stan won the gold in doubles Bryans win bronze
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Post by Calico on Aug 16, 2008 17:19:01 GMT -5
I am pretty sure Gonzales was aware of the contact. He did something wrong if not correcting a false ruling in your favour is wrong. Do I believe one should always do this? Yes. Have I always done this? No. The vast majority of the time, yes. But not always. I mean, Graf most likely knew the ball was on the line. She could have taught the trash-talking Swiss teen a lesson in humility by correcting the call. She chose a different road, and let's face it, it was more fun this way. In any case, the most annoying thing is that the people who rant and whine about morality in cases like this one are usually armchair "fans" who have never done any competitive sport in their life and have no clue at all. If you go pro in tennis and decide to never correct decisions in your favour AND not to expect it from your opponents, then that's fine by me. Well said. Especially about Gonzales being aware of the contact. I hope he loses the gold medal match to Nadal in the most painful way possible. By that I mean by blowing the match and a gold medal and not by injury. I wonder whart would have happened if Gonzales did this to legend Roger Federer instead of working man James Blake? I think the reaction and outcry would be much worse than it is. If someone had cheated Eldrick "Tiger" Woods in golf in a similar way the media would have gone crazy with it because golf has a code that players play fair and be honest even if it hurts their results. Tennis doesn't have this code of ethics in my opinion. I hope Gonzales and Blake play a night match against each other at the upcoming U.S. Open. Fireworks could erupt. Let the games begin! ;D And fair or not Gonzales will now have to carry around a reputation as a dishonest tennis player the rest of his career. Poor James Blake. But he still should have won the match.
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Post by GoDom on Aug 16, 2008 19:52:27 GMT -5
Why do you quote my post with "well said", and then write things that are the opposite of what I wrote?
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Post by Calico on Aug 16, 2008 20:12:52 GMT -5
Why do you quote my post with "well said", and then write things that are the opposite of what I wrote? I have 2 jobs and I'm fatigued. And it's about 90 degrees out and I'm fatigued. But I didn't know I was writing things opposite of what you wrote. I wrote well said because you said you believe Gonzales knew the ball nicked his racquet. I believe that as well even though some don't.
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Post by R. Black on Aug 16, 2008 20:53:43 GMT -5
I wonder whart would have happened if Gonzales did this to legend Roger Federer. Gonzales did nothing. The umpire judged he didn't touch the ball and it is not up to Gonzales to make the decision for him. Players are not in an objective position to make judgements, that's why they pay umpires to do the job. The presupposition behind this is that players can be 100% sure if they touched a ball or not. That's nonsense. I'm sure players do have a reasonable idea if they touched a ball or not, but they can't know for sure. If only for the reason things are going extremely fast and you can have the illusion you touched a ball when in fact you didn't. That's why the decision should be ultimately left to the umpire, like every other decision. The anti-Gonzales crusade is ridiculous, especially considering it doesn't come from n00bs, but people who know about the game. People should know better.
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Aug 16, 2008 22:38:05 GMT -5
Maybe Justine didn't know she had raised her hand.
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Post by :rolleyes: on Aug 17, 2008 0:39:22 GMT -5
Blake will be forever a bigger dick then Roddick after that press conference.
There are sour grapes, and then there is James Blake.
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Post by sasha on Aug 17, 2008 1:41:20 GMT -5
It wasn't sour grapes. Even if James won, he probably would have mentioned it.
Read James' book to understand what a goody-goody he is.
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Post by The Chloe on Aug 17, 2008 2:00:53 GMT -5
I missed it, what did he say? I like grapes.
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Post by Traveling Man on Aug 17, 2008 4:49:24 GMT -5
I missed it, what did he say? I like grapes. “Playing in the Olympics, in what’s supposed to be considered a gentleman’s sport, that’s a time to call it on yourself,” said a fuming Blake in his post-match news conference. “Fernando looked me square in the eye and didn’t call it. “If that happened the other way, I never would have finished the match because my father would have pulled me off the court if I had acted that way. “That’s a disappointing way to exit the tournament when you not only lose the match, but you lose a little faith in your fellow competitor.” “We know when it (the ball) touches us,” said Blake. “So that’s where it comes into calling it on yourself because it’s the right thing to do. “Should I expect him to do that? Maybe not. Maybe I shouldn’t expect people to hold themselves to high standards of sportsmanship. But yes, I did expect it a little more so in the Olympics when we’re all competing under the banner of this event being to promote sportsmanship and goodwill among countries. “Maybe I wouldn’t have expected this at the U.S. Open. But if the roles were reversed, I’d call it on myself. “Whatever he wants to say is fine. Whatever is going to get him to have some sleep tonight, then that’s fine.” sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/tennis/news;_ylt=Aq.qzv.gXzTZzefXMWD880Q4v7YF?slug=ro-blakegonzalez081508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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Post by Traveling Man on Aug 17, 2008 4:50:22 GMT -5
What's up with the "tainted" medal/trophy? Why must everything in tennis be tainted? Lolz.
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Post by The Chloe on Aug 17, 2008 7:06:07 GMT -5
Nadal wins gold Good effort from Gonzo to hang on there at the end, but it was not to be.
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Post by Calico on Aug 17, 2008 7:59:44 GMT -5
I wonder whart would have happened if Gonzales did this to legend Roger Federer. Gonzales did nothing. The umpire judged he didn't touch the ball and it is not up to Gonzales to make the decision for him. Players are not in an objective position to make judgements, that's why they pay umpires to do the job. The presupposition behind this is that players can be 100% sure if they touched a ball or not. That's nonsense. I'm sure players do have a reasonable idea if they touched a ball or not, but they can't know for sure. If only for the reason things are going extremely fast and you can have the illusion you touched a ball when in fact you didn't. That's why the decision should be ultimately left to the umpire, like every other decision. The anti-Gonzales crusade is ridiculous, especially considering it doesn't come from n00bs, but people who know about the game. People should know better. Well said. But maybe the anti Gonzales crusade will cease now that the men's Olympic singles gold medal has been decided and Nadal won and Gonzales lost. Congrats to Nadal on winning the gold medal. He is on an amazing run and about to become #1 for the first time tomorrow August 18, 2008.
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