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Post by The Chloe on Dec 26, 2009 23:02:54 GMT -5
There's just so much there.
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Post by leelee on Dec 27, 2009 0:02:51 GMT -5
That entire conversation... oy. What the heck is wrong with him. I take back my comments, Tiger is a complete idiot. And all that for this? AAAAAGGGGG. I don't even want to do Tiger anymore.
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Post by The Chloe on Dec 27, 2009 6:38:56 GMT -5
This entire saga lends much credence to those who always claimed that Tiger had super special self loathing race issues, doesn't it?
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Post by janie on Feb 19, 2010 9:37:09 GMT -5
GWAA vs. Woods: A boycott years in the making By Damon Hack, Senior Writer, Sports Illustrated February 19, 2010
The relationship between Tiger Woods and the golf media has always been a story of unrequited love. Tiger — brilliant, untouchable, distant — set the terms of the romance, and we scribes followed.
If Tiger had called a press conference in a garbage dump, dozens of writers with bad golf shirts and Marriott pens would have traipsed through the muck to get there. (Twelve-shot wins at the Masters can make even the most jaded journalist go gaga.)
But on Thursday night, after two days of discussion among its board members, the Golf Writers Association of America voted not to participate as pool reporters for Woods's appearance Friday at PGA Tour headquarters in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla., where he will make his first public comments since admitting to infidelity.
What will this mean practically for the media coverage of the statement? Not much. The Associated Press, Bloomberg and Reuters will attend Friday's event, it will still be broadcast live, and the majority of GWAA members will still report on it by monitoring on television. Heck, who knows if Woods will even notice our absence? But by rejecting the initial offer of three pool reporter spots, and a subsequent offer of six, the GWAA hopes to make a statement.
With this decision, a one-way relationship has changed.
The reasons for the boycott were two-fold. First, the insistence by Woods and his handlers to limit media access to a pool of reporters. Second, Woods's decision not to field any questions. But there were also deeper feelings in play, and complicated ones, too. This is an association filled with members who had covered Woods, by almost all counts, fairly and with respect, chronicling his golfing feats even as he bristled at times at his media obligations.
It was an awkward dance between Woods and the scribes, but he and his camp were always in the lead. They set the time and place for discourse, and that was that.
But after going underground for nearly three months after his post-Thanksgiving scandal, Woods thought he could return and set the ground rules as always. The GWAA, in the end, said it would not be party to it. [Late Thursday night, the Associated Press reported that Woods is on a weeklong break from therapy, which helps explain the timing of the statement.]
"I cannot stress how strongly our board felt that this should be open to all media and also for the opportunity to question Woods," said Vartan Kupelian, president of the 950-member group, in a statement. "The position, simply put, is all or none. This is a major story of international scope. To limit the ability of journalists to attend, listen, see and question Woods goes against the grain of everything we believe."
For the GWAA — which has voted Woods its player of the year a record ten times — the boycott ended two days of at times tense conversation among board members, including this reporter. On Wednesday night, I wrote in a message to the board that it was a "fiasco" for the Woods camp to choose how many reporters could attend, and that the whole situation was foul, including the Tour's decision to host him. Still, I didn't care if Woods read his statement from a teleprompter or scribbled notes on his hand, I wanted to be in that room to hear him. A journalist wants to be where the story is.
By Thursday evening, after further reflection and discussion, I saw the other side of the story, that calling a pseudo-press conference stocked with family, friends and handpicked media outlets wasn't journalism but a photo op. [Duh!] I voted for the boycott.
The Woods story has gone everywhere and nowhere in the last three months, and it is impossible to know how the story will end. Eventually, the GWAA will be back behind the scenes, where it has been for much of its 64 years of existence, as an organization whose original goals included "an improvement in press facilities" and "interviews with players."
That's all the GWAA wanted Friday, an interview with Tiger Woods. He won't give it. So the GWAA won't be there.
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Post by leelee on Feb 19, 2010 11:58:50 GMT -5
Tiger is such a stubborn fool concerning this. Just come clean, it's not like people won't understand. Then play golf, and NOC anymore.
But, no, let's run a bogus statement only to our friends, with no questions, and during an important event with the Match Play so your peers can hate you. Moron.
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Post by Maeby Fünke on Feb 19, 2010 13:08:58 GMT -5
People need to remember that Tiger Woods is only as famous as he is because golf is the only sport fat middle aged American CEOs can play without having a heart attack. Its still an immensely silly game. Its not like hes a great athlete or anything.
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Post by janie on Feb 19, 2010 20:49:02 GMT -5
Are you trying to say the emperor has no clothes, Willow?
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Post by Calico on Feb 20, 2010 15:43:54 GMT -5
Tiger is such a stubborn fool concerning this. Just come clean, it's not like people won't understand. Then play golf, and NOC anymore. But, no, let's run a bogus statement only to our friends, with no questions, and during an important event with the Match Play so your peers can hate you. Moron. Exactly. I just wish Tiger would divorce Elin so they both stop living a sham and so he can get back to his golf career. Who knows what all this self made drama is doing to his mind. It might even be weakening it. Tiger was a fraud as a man and husband. He can never have a good image again other than as a great golfer. But Woods being a great golfer again is no certainty after all his personal turmoil has been made public followed by endless humiliation.
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Post by leelee on Feb 20, 2010 19:43:59 GMT -5
I don't care that much about Tiger's image. I've always liked him, still do, but he's always been an extremely aloof robotic jerkass that was programmed to only care about golf since he was born. He's the opposite of interesting, and still shows no signs of being a human being.
What's interesting to me is if he can handle this change. Golf is mostly a mental sport, and Tiger is no longer invincible. As was said before, people aren't to let his potty mouth tantrums on course or his caddy threatening people just slide by anymore. There's going to be many hecklers, and negativity that he has never known in his life. And Tiger will have to take this all in stride and keep being ridiculously good at golf.
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Post by Calico on Feb 20, 2010 22:30:32 GMT -5
I don't care that much about Tiger's image. I've always liked him, still do, but he's always been an extremely aloof robotic jerkass that was programmed to only care about golf since he was born. He's the opposite of interesting, and still shows no signs of being a human being. What's interesting to me is if he can handle this change. Golf is mostly a mental sport, and Tiger is no longer invincible. As was said before, people aren't to let his potty mouth tantrums on course or his caddy threatening people just slide by anymore. There's going to be many hecklers, and negativity that he has never known in his life. And Tiger will have to take this all in stride and keep being ridiculously good at golf. I think Woods changing for real is a big IF. I'm not sure about there being hecklers because golf afterall is a gentlemen's sport and the fans are normally restrained as far as negative verbal input goes. The PGA Tour fans are much more mild than loud mouthed NFL, NBA and NHL fans.
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Post by janie on Feb 21, 2010 10:57:23 GMT -5
I think if people in other countries could have seen how absolutely HUGE a deal was made on US tv networks and all media about Tiger's staged, faux apology, we would be the laughingstock of the world. It's embarrassing that this nauseating show was treated here as if Tiger were the Prez of the USA announcing a declaration of war. Though the Prez would never get away with this oh-so-carefully orchestrated show, no questions allowed to be asked, etc. The whole situation makes me puke, although I'm mildly glad Tiger's phony persona has been exposed. The only thing I'd love to know is how much pressure and what sort of pressure was put on Elin to show up at this charade. You know they were desperate to have her there to complete the pretend picture of Rehabilitated Dog Tiger, as has happened so very often with congressional wives and other wives in the public eye -- they're ALWAYS there, right by scummy hubby's side. If Elin were an American woman, I swear she'd have caved, because USians are raised to believe that what matters most in public life is not integrity but PR. GO SWEDES! But now I want to hear nothing further about either of them. Ever.
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Post by leelee on Feb 22, 2010 21:40:17 GMT -5
Mike Tirico seriously said during the press conference: "You'll remember where you were when you saw Tiger's speech today." And then Charlie Rymer OPENLY WEEPED about this on the Golf Channel.
I think most of the US knows what a laughing stock this is.
It also illustrates how the media has completely lost the purpose of their job.
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Post by leelee on Feb 28, 2010 20:05:09 GMT -5
So, I turned on ESPN for a minute accidentally, and the bottom line had BREAKING NEWZ of Presidents Obama and Clinton calling Tiger to support him.
Fuck. The. Heck.
Why? What do you even say to him?
It's going to be hard for Barry to top this one. But, I know he will further astound me as a complete joke in the Presidency.
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Post by janie on Mar 1, 2010 8:18:31 GMT -5
If it's true, it makes me puke. Clinton, that makes sense, but Obama? Please.
But Barry still has miles and miles and miles to go before his presidency can even approach the joke that was Bush's.
Interesting that Gatorade dropped Tiger AFTER the Apology Show. Good for them!
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Post by The Chloe on Mar 1, 2010 10:52:49 GMT -5
People still care about this?
One of my students told me that they read that Tiger's ladies are going to have a beauty pagent. I told them that this can't possible be true. Then I remembered how trashy some of those women looked, and well...
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Post by janie on Mar 16, 2010 10:49:14 GMT -5
Tiger's returning for the Masters. Now THERE'S a big surprise. The whole world will tune in to see if Elin shows up and watches him adoringly.
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Post by janie on Mar 16, 2010 10:55:34 GMT -5
Oh, and I predict big love and delerious applause, as if he's coming back from a decade of battling a life-threatening illness instead of from the outing of his king-sized selfish jerkdom. Real tears from the commentators are also likely. Nike wins.
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Post by leelee on Mar 16, 2010 11:04:33 GMT -5
Tiger hired Ari Fleischer now... I don't understand any of this. The dude cheated on his wife. "I have undergone almost two months of inpatient sex therapy and I am continuing my treatment". WHAT. You're a man. Men have sex with women. Why is this a story. Why does the media act like soap opera shit x10000.
I can't recall a media-overblown story that's made me want to throw my TV in the garbage every time I hear about it like this.
The Masters is officially ruined for me. I do wonder which CBS personality will openly weep and make themselves look like a complete ass, though.
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Post by janie on Mar 16, 2010 12:00:02 GMT -5
Maybe they'll ALL weep, and then share a big GROUP HUG! The Masters is ruined for me, too. Okay, for me it was already so, so bad with the annual Augusta course-worship (O, Ye Cathedral of Golf), it's so-specialness (only certain holes may be viewed by us unwashed masses, and we must bow down when we see those) and the Tiger-worship. But what's going to happen this year is going to put it so far over the edge that I won't be tuning in at all unless somehow Tiger breaks both legs and thereby misses the cut so I can watch the last 2 days without earplugs. Whew! That felt good! I needed someplace to release my stored-up venom on this board, which has been a little too St. Kim nice lately, though of course that's good in almost all respects. But my mean streak needs to get out for a stroll now and then, and better on here where you all know that side of me than in real life, where someone might get hurt.
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Post by leelee on Mar 16, 2010 14:32:23 GMT -5
Tiger could break his legs and win again like against Rocco. Be careful what you wish for.
I'm disappointed that this is making me hate Tiger like the rest of you.
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Post by DBBN on Mar 16, 2010 15:10:28 GMT -5
Damn, I was hoping for a nice Tigre-free year, but no. And now it's ALL WE'LL HEAR ABOUT. As if he wasn't 97% of the coverage in years past.
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Post by janie on Mar 16, 2010 15:12:46 GMT -5
I won't hear about it because my tv will be OFF. Of course it'll be top headline on internet news for days, but that can be ignored.
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Post by leelee on Mar 23, 2010 19:47:38 GMT -5
These interviews are so interesting. I'm glad Tiger apologizing for cheating on his wife and getting sex therapy leads Sportscenter! ESPN should start showing soap operas now. And, as always, Tiger refuses to answer anything important.
I've fully turned on him, and want him to lose lose lose.
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Post by janie on Mar 23, 2010 20:41:20 GMT -5
Looks like Tiger's following the steps recommended by that Ari Fleischer guy. I even read that he brought up Religion! Stay away, Elin. Stay far, far away.
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Post by The Chloe on Mar 27, 2010 1:50:22 GMT -5
Tiger Wood's brave comeback to the sport of golf is positively inspirational!
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