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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 14:27:49 GMT -5
Post by Edna Krabappel on May 29, 2012 14:27:49 GMT -5
WHY DIDN'T I WATCH THIS
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 14:32:29 GMT -5
Post by janie on May 29, 2012 14:32:29 GMT -5
WHY DIDN'T I WATCH THIS Because it was NID SEWTA. And then suddenly it wasn't. Just think, I was watching Woz for most of it! WOZ. PS: For what it's worth (nothing), Woz looked good. But she has always been able to play very well, even aggressively, in this sort of no-account match, especially against the more inept. And Eleni was very inept out there.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 14:36:13 GMT -5
Post by Lady on May 29, 2012 14:36:13 GMT -5
Am I right in remembering part of the reason Silliams was so upset at the USO is because Eva gaveSam the point first time, rather than replaying it. She didn't seem so bothered this time. Yes, but here Eva did replay the point the 1st time. It's the 2nd and 3rd time that she gave a point. I'll give Serena credit, she made a visible effort to accept the fact that the point was replayed by the same umpire that took a point from her for the same thing. And when Asderaki went with giving points to Serena after that, I'm not sure she 'enjoyed' it either cause it only got the crowd all riled up.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 14:43:56 GMT -5
Post by Lady on May 29, 2012 14:43:56 GMT -5
Eurosport 2 is replaying this glorious match from the 2nd set tie-break. That's when I started watching as well the 1st time. I'll need to rewatch the last game, Safina's reactions were awesome.
Awww, Serena was still smiling at that 5*-3point that was replayed if only she knew that this was the turning point.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 14:51:10 GMT -5
Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2012 14:51:10 GMT -5
From the start of this tournament I secretly didn't think that either Serena or Maria would win the title but I was afraid to say so because it's just stupid to think that. Unfortunately now the worst one of those two options is more likely than ever, but I still hope that Maria will be so desperate to win this title that she'll choke like a screaming dog. She will. It won't happen.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 14:53:29 GMT -5
Post by lexpretend on May 29, 2012 14:53:29 GMT -5
I would love if La Razz's conqueror last week, Morita, was inspired enough to take Ma$habot down in the next round
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 14:53:54 GMT -5
Post by lexpretend on May 29, 2012 14:53:54 GMT -5
Also a positive - Witchmayer has lost in the 1R of both Slams this year
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 14:55:49 GMT -5
Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2012 14:55:49 GMT -5
Well.
That was great.
Serena's never winning another Slam.
Maybe all the ESPN commentators can shut their traps about this Real #1 shit? You can't be the Real #1 with no Slams, Serena! You can't be the Real #1 when you lose in the goddamn first round!
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:04:44 GMT -5
Post by lexpretend on May 29, 2012 15:04:44 GMT -5
Well. That was great. Serena's never winning another Slam. Maybe all the ESPN commentators can shut their traps about this Real #1 shit? You can't be the Real #1 with no Slams, Serena! You can't be the Real #1 when you lose in the goddamn first round! That's exactly why today is so magical And...it's not even that Serena is older and not what she was physically. She eviscerated the field in the USO series and in the clay warm-ups. She's been playing a decent schedule this year but has only lost three matches. It's just that...those matches came at the Slams and Miami. She's literally become everything she despised. She can bring her A game in the minor tournaments, but she can't get it up in the majors. Instead, she chokes and cries and sulks. Is her surname Zvonareva? It is so. so. sweet. to watch.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:21:15 GMT -5
Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2012 15:21:15 GMT -5
Well. That was great. Serena's never winning another Slam. Maybe all the ESPN commentators can shut their traps about this Real #1 shit? You can't be the Real #1 with no Slams, Serena! You can't be the Real #1 when you lose in the goddamn first round! That's exactly why today is so magical And...it's not even that Serena is older and not what she was physically. She eviscerated the field in the USO series and in the clay warm-ups. She's been playing a decent schedule this year but has only lost three matches. It's just that...those matches came at the Slams and Miami. She's literally become everything she despised. She can bring her A game in the minor tournaments, but she can't get it up in the majors. Instead, she chokes and cries and sulks. Is her surname Zvonareva? It is so. so. sweet. to watch. That's all correct. She has become Safina or Mauresmo. It's GREAT. ESPN is stuck in a time-warp, though. They can't get over that she's not the best. Well, she isn't! This is her year's worth of Grand Slams: 4r, F, 4r, 1r. Good enough for #5 or whatever. That's where she's ranked and that is what she deserves. I wish somebody would just come to their senses and realize that. This isn't even something like McNeil d. Graf. It's more like Oremans d. Navratilova. Today's loss is of the type that damages the confidence. Serena will never admit that but it has to. That last game was .... so interesting. Serena did her usual thing of fighting off the matchpoints but she had plenty of chances to break. Particularly the forehand she hit off a second serve right into the net. She would not have missed that more than 5 times in 100. The match was there for the taking for her even though she was down. If she breaks back there, it's 4-5 her serving and Razzano about to die. I assume it gets suspended and then Serena comes back the next day and wins 7-5. But she wasn't able to get it there. Years ago she would have.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:25:28 GMT -5
Post by Edna Krabappel on May 29, 2012 15:25:28 GMT -5
What the hell was wrong with Asderaki?! Azza and Shazza would never finish the match under those "rules".
She was lucky she wasn't lynched by the mob. Which may well have happened had Razzano lost.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:32:45 GMT -5
Post by lexpretend on May 29, 2012 15:32:45 GMT -5
This isn't even something like McNeil d. Graf. It's more like Oremans d. Navratilova. Well. Somewhere in between. La Razz is a former top 20 player, we know she has serious game (Venus certainly does!), and her entire career has been streaky. She hasn't been good for years, but you know she always had the ability to pull a GOAT match out of her ass, and this was a perfect home-inspiration-vs-great-champion scenario for it. But - I keep having to restate this because GUH - she lost to LITTLE AYUMI MORITA last week ONE AND THREE. Yeah. La Razz hit a couple of good crucial serves, but so many times I thought, you know, that was it, the choke had happened, it's over. And then Serena just dumps yet another return into the net. So sure, it was about Serena's errors, but Serena's errors were about her mental frailty - she'd never have done that at Charleston or Madrid this year! - which puts her riiiiiight back in MauMau territory
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:37:18 GMT -5
Post by Lady on May 29, 2012 15:37:18 GMT -5
I have never seen Serena return as poorly as she did in that last game, especially on break points. And many-many of those were 2nd serves. And on match points she played really great for the most part. And to think this was one of the prettiest Serena's outfits ever!
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:44:47 GMT -5
Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2012 15:44:47 GMT -5
Well, good. Now we can have a fun tournament where Woz wins or something. I wish I still looked on TF. I bet it has completely erupted?
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:46:01 GMT -5
Post by DBBN on May 29, 2012 15:46:01 GMT -5
"[Asderaki] is not a favorite amongst the Tour." -- S. Williams
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:56:03 GMT -5
Post by lexpretend on May 29, 2012 15:56:03 GMT -5
A couple of years ago, a friend of mine who worked for the BBC but didn't know anything about tennis was assigned to put some Wimbledon reports together, and asked me to recommend him an umpire to interview. I recommended Asderaki and he said she was one of the nicest women he'd ever interviewed
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:57:22 GMT -5
Post by Paean on May 29, 2012 15:57:22 GMT -5
This was the craziest match I've ever seen and I only watched it from 4-0 in the third. That last game, all the hindrance calls, the MPs when Serena just wouldn't miss! Insane.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 15:58:24 GMT -5
Post by Paean on May 29, 2012 15:58:24 GMT -5
I'm gonna read Tf now. I'll be good for the next 5 hours.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 16:04:18 GMT -5
Post by GoDom on May 29, 2012 16:04:18 GMT -5
As always, I miss the good stuff. Fuck my life.
Where can I watch the match. Now.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 16:28:02 GMT -5
Post by Wagasi on May 29, 2012 16:28:02 GMT -5
OMG you guys. Maybe the sun really has set on this generation.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 21:48:34 GMT -5
Post by Old Hag on May 29, 2012 21:48:34 GMT -5
This isn't good. Mashabot is going to be the queen of clay. Oy.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 22:21:35 GMT -5
Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2012 22:21:35 GMT -5
Just watched the entirety of the second and third sets (I'd only watched the end before). Couple of things became obvious:
Razzano was not giving anything away in the baseline rallies. She was attacking Serena's rally balls with great effectiveness and at times it was her hitting the ball harder out there.
This match must be added to the recent collection of Serena's emotional breakdowns. I don't know why she is so highly-strung these last few years but it's not helping her game.
There is no reason for Razzano to have won. Serena had a backhand down the line opening for a 5-3 lead in set two and blew it. 5-1 in the breaker. Last game, with a cramping opponent spinning in 75 mph serves, she could not make a return. Which leads me to ...
This is the only time I can remember when I've seen Serena truly choke. She was visibly nervous in the last game. Of course, only a robot would not be. That last game was among the tensest I've ever experienced. I was getting nervous WATCHING THE REPLAY.
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Day 3.
May 29, 2012 23:15:38 GMT -5
Post by Wagasi on May 29, 2012 23:15:38 GMT -5
Found this writeup in Le Monde. Her nickname is apparently Nini. balle-de-break.blog.lemonde.fr/2012/05/29/roland-garros-bravissimo-razzano/If I remember correctly Serena did show some mental brittleness early in her career (especially in the 00-01 period). But still, this is the kind of upset we've come to expect from Venus, not her. It's so weird to watch Serena get nervous and then see the player on the other side fight on and even out-hit her (while cramping) and not fold like a SEWTA Premier draw. Like you can't trust anything anymore.
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Day 3.
May 30, 2012 2:34:58 GMT -5
Post by Lady on May 30, 2012 2:34:58 GMT -5
"[Asderaki] is not a favorite amongst the Tour." -- S. Williams I was more shocked when Serena said she was 100% healthy. That's like favourite excuse of her fanbase, what are they gonna blame now?
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Day 3.
May 30, 2012 8:54:03 GMT -5
Post by Traveling Man on May 30, 2012 8:54:03 GMT -5
Fuck my life for missing this insanity And my internet for not working. When i found out about this result the first thing that came to mind was "She won Charleston and Madrid."
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Day 3.
May 30, 2012 9:14:42 GMT -5
Post by janie on May 30, 2012 9:14:42 GMT -5
ha! Yes, she'll always have Charleston and Madrid. Remember when she used to say that she and Venus would fly coach as a self-punishment after losing? I never did believe her, and she certainly is not going to subject herself to curious seatmates after this one. Big credit to brave Lindsay Davenport telling it like it was: “I’ve never seen her tighter, and I’ve never seen her choke more,” Lindsay Davenport, once Williams’s rival at the top of the game, said of the tiebreaker as she left Roland Garros on Tuesday night.
“It was complete nerves for whatever reason,” Davenport said. “There was no reason to get tight in the tiebreak, and she did, and she was so tight even that last game. She had five break points, and she couldn’t put returns into play. It was like she just completely froze, and I don’t think anyone’s used to seeing, of all players, her freeze.” Didn't think any USians would dare to use the C word in public!
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Day 3.
May 30, 2012 9:24:19 GMT -5
Post by janie on May 30, 2012 9:24:19 GMT -5
Baker and Cake going down.
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Day 3.
May 30, 2012 9:29:15 GMT -5
Post by janie on May 30, 2012 9:29:15 GMT -5
Naturally, Kuz is broken when serving for the match. Ugh. Dumping this feed for sth else. ANYTHING else!
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Day 3.
May 30, 2012 9:31:57 GMT -5
Post by Wagasi on May 30, 2012 9:31:57 GMT -5
Lindsay always was the master of backhanded compliments.
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Day 3.
May 30, 2012 12:05:45 GMT -5
Post by Grarliner on May 30, 2012 12:05:45 GMT -5
Well, she told it like it was.
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