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Post by Calico on Jun 3, 2007 14:13:39 GMT -5
Why doesn't some player complain to the ump about her obnoxious shrieking. It's even worse than Seles because it's not a grunt in any form. She's just screaming. Or, maybe the umps won't do anything because we must be favorable to the Corporate Robot (TM). The players don't complain about Sharapova's grunting because it doesn't bother them. I was thinking about Serena's grunting too, Brie. Bit I guess it's a big deal because Maria does it regulary while Serena screams occasionally.
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Post by sasha on Jun 3, 2007 14:37:51 GMT -5
Why doesn't some player complain to the ump about her obnoxious shrieking. It's even worse than Seles because it's not a grunt in any form. She's just screaming. Or, maybe the umps won't do anything because we must be favorable to the Corporate Robot (TM). racist. you never comment about reenus's shrieking but because she's black then it's ok, right? Both sistahz' screaming should be banned, too. But, Maria's is far worse.
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Post by Wagasi on Jun 3, 2007 14:43:03 GMT -5
someone literally needs to shut her up, I'll probably have another existential crisis when Serena plays her in the final
I'm so glad I don't have to watch NBC and its dumbass commentators for once, I hope we get Latin American ESPN the whole tournament...and wimbledon too!
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Post by R. Black on Jun 3, 2007 14:53:51 GMT -5
The players don't complain about Sharapova's grunting because it doesn't bother them. I'm sure it bothers some players. They don't complain because they know it's pointless complaining. People complained about Seles grunts and it never changed. What I don't like about Serena's grunt (and I think Maria is like that too, but I don't watch her very often) is that it's not consistent. Serena can scream like a pig, then be completely silent the next point, or even the next shot. It clearly shows it's not a genuine grunt; it's just a gimmick.
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Jun 3, 2007 14:56:55 GMT -5
I don't have anything against Maria but her reaching the final at RG (this year, at least) would be a joke. Still, she has a very big chance now.
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Post by Calico on Jun 3, 2007 14:59:15 GMT -5
Kiwi, Graf complained about Seles grunting before their Wimbledon 1992 final and Monica was stunned and hurt by that and gave a muted and meek performance in the final with her game and grunting.
If some players are truly bothered by Maria's grunting then they should say something to the chair umpire before their match with Maria. Or to Larry Scott if he will listen to them.
And Kiwi you make a good point about Serena's inconsistent grunting.
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Jun 3, 2007 15:03:25 GMT -5
Navratilova complained, not Graf.
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Post by R. Black on Jun 3, 2007 15:05:22 GMT -5
Kiwi, Graf complained about Seles grunting before their Wimbledon 1992 final and Monica was stunned and hurt by that and gave a muted and meek performance in the final with her game and grunting. If some players are truly bothered by Maria's grunting then they should say something to the chair umpire before their match with Maria. Or to Larry Scott if he will listen to them. And Kiwi you make a good point about Serena's inconsistent grunting. No. Tauziat and Navratilova complained about Seles grunting and then she decided to be silent against Graf. But the tournament after she grunted as loud. So complaining didn't help one bit, except for Graf in one match. I don't think they are annoyed to a point they would complain to Larry Scott (lol), but I don't buy your point that because they don't complain they aren't annoyed.
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Jun 3, 2007 15:10:26 GMT -5
And those complaints probably wouldn't have worked even for that one match had the British press not made a huge deal about her grunting that year.
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Post by R. Black on Jun 3, 2007 15:17:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it's that year the press brought a "grunt-o-meter" and apparently Monica was louder than a locomotive. Or did I just make that up?
Let's face it: Maria grunts screams are fake. No one can seriously think it's genuine.
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Post by Maeby Fünke on Jun 3, 2007 15:17:53 GMT -5
I've always hated Serenas growl more because its such an ugly sound and an ugly game and an ugly player. And because I'm racist I expect. But I think the problem is where you draw the line, especially since I would have defended Seles. Also nobody complains when the men do it which bugs me.
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Post by R. Black on Jun 3, 2007 15:21:40 GMT -5
I've always hated Serenas growl more because its such an ugly sound and an ugly game and an ugly player. And because I'm racist I expect. But I think the problem is where you draw the line, especially since I would have defended Seles. Also nobody complains when the men do it which bugs me. Because womens' grunts are more acute I suppose. I don't think Nadal or Muster grunts are even close to be as annoying as Shapapova or Seles.
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Post by Wagasi on Jun 3, 2007 17:24:07 GMT -5
Dechy complained about Sharapova at Birmingham one year didn't she? Not like it would matter, her PR would probably steamroll over any complaints. They'd probably have to justify that the banshee shrieks gave her an unfair advantage or something. I always thought Schiavone's grunt would fit that bill, it has to be distracting to hear something just when you're getting ready to hit the ball
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Post by R. Black on Jun 3, 2007 17:32:41 GMT -5
1 day or 2 after Richard said Villiams should retire if she keep playing like that, now he says Venus was actually injured but he didn't know it.
Translation: he realized he went to far by saying to the press she should retire, and now he's using an excuse to minimize the loss.
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Jun 3, 2007 17:38:30 GMT -5
Poor Vee.
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Post by :rolleyes: on Jun 3, 2007 18:33:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it's that year the press brought a "grunt-o-meter" and apparently Monica was louder than a locomotive. Or did I just make that up? Let's face it: Maria grunts screams are fake. No one can seriously think it's genuine. No, maria unnaturally stops her grunts sometimes. It's like a cat can control it's tail when it wants and I can control my blinking when I want but most of the time I don't. Serena's roars are not genuine, but don't lie about maria like that.
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Post by corswandt on Jun 3, 2007 18:47:40 GMT -5
Sharapova got booed because she served when Patty wasn't ready, but it was ruled an ace anyway. *adds voice to chorus of boos* Maria didn't serve when Schnyder wasn't ready; Schnyder only raised her hand *after* Maria had hit the serve, with the ball already flying her way. I rewound the tape and paused to check. Glad to see Maria's win drove you nuts.
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Post by sasha on Jun 3, 2007 18:58:08 GMT -5
The players don't complain about Sharapova's grunting because it doesn't bother them. I really doubt that. It's because if they say something, nothing will be done. I can't even watch her matches because it's so bad... so, I can't imagine how players can deal with it. It's a piercing shriek. And she's not consistent with it, either. It's an act, and she gets away with it because she's The Princess.
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Post by The Chloe on Jun 3, 2007 20:55:44 GMT -5
Sharapova got booed because she served when Patty wasn't ready, but it was ruled an ace anyway. *adds voice to chorus of boos* Maria didn't serve when Schnyder wasn't ready; Schnyder only raised her hand *after* Maria had hit the serve, with the ball already flying her way. I rewound the tape and paused to check. Glad to see Maria's win drove you nuts. Maria makes tennis unwatchable.
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Post by Grarliner on Jun 4, 2007 0:14:03 GMT -5
1 day or 2 after Richard said Villiams should retire if she keep playing like that, now he says Venus was actually injured but he didn't know it. Translation: he realized he went to far by saying to the press she should retire, and now he's using an excuse to minimize the loss. More likely he did his usual strategy; say something outlandish to acquire the headlines, then retract, retract, retract.
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Post by Traveling Man on Jun 4, 2007 7:46:32 GMT -5
"Vamos Maria!"
I was rooting for Patricia but was very impressed with Queen Masha's fighting qualities.
The only good thing we'll get out of the QF is that either Silliams or the Elf will be gone. I'm rooting for Silliams.
g0 QueEn REEEee babygurlzlzz!!!111
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Post by corswandt on Jun 4, 2007 9:04:39 GMT -5
Maria didn't serve when Schnyder wasn't ready; Schnyder only raised her hand *after* Maria had hit the serve, with the ball already flying her way. I rewound the tape and paused to check. Glad to see Maria's win drove you nuts. Maria makes tennis unwatchable.
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Post by corswandt on Jun 4, 2007 9:22:31 GMT -5
"Vamos Maria!" I was rooting for Patricia but was very impressed with Queen Masha's fighting qualities. The only good thing we'll get out of the QF is that either Silliams or the Elf will be gone. I'm rooting for Silliams. g0 QueEn REEEee babygurlzlzz!!!111 I am too, because it makes it almost inevitable that either Maria or Jankovic become #1 at the end of RG, or just before Wimbledon, and because I want to laugh at the Tennis Culters when that happens. I'm not sure if Jankovic will be able to withstand a babygurl Ree on a rampage after beating JH though.
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Post by Wagasi on Jun 4, 2007 9:44:41 GMT -5
what's with the bitterness Corsy?
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Post by corswandt on Jun 4, 2007 9:55:31 GMT -5
what's with the bitterness Corsy? Ooooops. Me no native speaker, me no able to goof around not sound stuck up.
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Post by Wagasi on Jun 4, 2007 10:43:59 GMT -5
or maybe I'm paranoid
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