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Post by The Chloe on Jul 5, 2009 12:33:33 GMT -5
My stream completely shit out for the last game. If this were last year, I'd personally hunt down and fucking destroy the thousands of people who tuned into it at the end of the match, making it utter crap. As it is, punching two of them would suffice.
Is Roddick crying? My stream froze on him sniffling and the commentator saying "aw".
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Post by lexpretend on Jul 5, 2009 12:33:13 GMT -5
No crying, just looks a bit shellshocked. Or maybe bored.
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Post by The Chloe on Jul 5, 2009 12:34:35 GMT -5
For some reason this keeps putting my posts ahead of posts that were actually posted after. Gr.
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Post by lexpretend on Jul 5, 2009 12:42:34 GMT -5
LOL, Fed's jacket already had the 15 embroidered on it.
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Post by leelee on Jul 5, 2009 12:46:38 GMT -5
Those who watched Sampras vs Ivanicevic would not think this is a boring match! This was the grass court tennis I used to love. Rafa needs to stay away.
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Post by leelee on Jul 5, 2009 12:52:51 GMT -5
But, yeah, it was a bit boring. Roger didn't play well, IMO. Very poor return by his standards, and rarely went after the forehand. And with no rooting interest, my only wish was that Roger didn't get to 55 aces.
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Post by janie on Jul 5, 2009 13:00:20 GMT -5
I was rooting for Andy; he was playing so much better than I've seen. But I turned it off after the match; did not want to see any Man Tears. LOL, Fed's jacket already had the 15 embroidered on it.And I would have HATED to see this!
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Post by janie on Jul 5, 2009 13:01:34 GMT -5
Oh, okay, now I've read more posts, I see there were no tears. Still don't mind having missed the coronation of the King.
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Post by The Chloe on Jul 5, 2009 13:03:18 GMT -5
LOL, Fed's jacket already had the 15 embroidered on it. DIVA! Just to clarify, Roddick played perhaps the best he's ever going to play at Wimbledon, lost, and didn't shed a single tear? Somebody should pass the memo onto Fed that this is how it's done. Although, hopefully winning Wimbledon and RG back to back will ensure that the disaster that was Australia's after-match meltdown never happens again. Isn't it nice that Rafa made winning Wimbledon and RG back to back just a touch less special? ;D
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Post by The Chloe on Jul 5, 2009 13:03:37 GMT -5
Okay, I suppose that nobody is rambling on about how special it is to win Wimbledon and RG back to back because winning 15 slams is a bigger deal. Still. I like to think that Rafa beating him to the punch there ruins it a bit, because I'm like this.
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Post by janie on Jul 5, 2009 13:15:25 GMT -5
It does ruin it, really. Makes it seem so ordinary when it happened just last year. One thing I loved was the silence of the players. Only rare shouts of COME ON!!! from Rog; rare fist pumps, saved for such occasions as when winning a set, not just winning any point; no loud grunting no matter how important the point/ how intense the moment. I wish the young women players would watch and learn but soon it might not matter to me because I'm fast losing interest in the distaff side of the sport. Aside from the Hidden World, of course.
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Jul 5, 2009 13:20:06 GMT -5
That was heartbreaking for Roddick, and I've never even cared much for him. That shellshocked look on his face after the match was over reminded me of Hingis at AO 2002. This loss will probably fuck him up for good. As for Fed well, great champion, what a fighter, blah blah blah, but having a jacket already made with the 15 on it? Egotistical cuntiness worthy of Serena. As for the bag I could happily root against him in every match he plays from now on
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Post by Traveling Man on Jul 5, 2009 13:36:46 GMT -5
I hate this. I rooted for Dementieva, Safina, Haas and Murray in the semis and Venus and Roddick in the finals. Everyone lost.
Roddick really should've converted one of the setpoints in set #2 instead of allowing for a Seles-esque comeback (read: RG 90 vs Graf). I've never rooted for him before this and he looked really shaken up after it was over. Larry Stefanki is a great coach, having already seen his results with Kafelnikov. Just sucks to be Andy right now, I guess.
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Post by janie on Jul 5, 2009 16:27:12 GMT -5
I hate this. I rooted for Dementieva, Safina, Haas and Murray in the semis and Venus and Roddick in the finals. Everyone lost. Same here, except for Murray. So not the best Wimbledon for me, but Ferrero, ED and Haas were high points. And seeing the New Improved Roddick game was fun, even if he did fall one match short of knocking out Monsieur Hoity Toity Goldbag.
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Post by leelee on Jul 5, 2009 16:28:29 GMT -5
Let's not feel too bad for Andrew... if Rafa was healthy, he very likely would have been out in the QF. He made a run, but quite simply, Roger is far better than he is. Accept being #5-7.
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Post by GoDom on Jul 5, 2009 16:47:38 GMT -5
I think if Andy had taken the second set, he would have had a very good chance to win this. He choked on both set-points when he was serving. The first one, he inexplicably decided to play the backhand slice instead of the two-handed one for the first time in the match, and that volley ... I felt really sorry for him at the end though. Awww.
I agree that this was much less intense than last year's Match of the Century. There was more on the line last year although in retrospect it all looks a little bit different. Mainly because Federer didn't suck and retire after it.
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Post by leelee on Jul 5, 2009 17:03:15 GMT -5
The chatter afterward... Roger is the greatest ever? Maybe. The best of this generation? They're talking like it's a certainty. No. When someone else has defeated you in 6 slams, and won those 6 slams.
And I wanted to punch him for the 15 on his jacket. If Andy would have won, he should have kicked him in the 15.
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Post by Brinyi on Jul 5, 2009 17:10:00 GMT -5
Move to the back of the bus, Pete!
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Post by Iorix on Jul 5, 2009 18:06:52 GMT -5
OMG CAN SOMEONE FUCKING WIN ALREADY. My thoughts from 5-5 onwards. But mostly because I'm for 5th set TBs.
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Post by Wagasi on Jul 5, 2009 19:24:35 GMT -5
Yay bug serving.
Good thing Esther won.
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Post by The Chloe on Jul 5, 2009 23:32:37 GMT -5
That was heartbreaking for Roddick, and I've never even cared much for him. That shellshocked look on his face after the match was over reminded me of Hingis at AO 2002. This loss will probably fuck him up for good. As for Fed well, great champion, what a fighter, blah blah blah, but having a jacket already made with the 15 on it? Egotistical cuntiness worthy of Serena. As for the bag I could happily root against him in every match he plays from now on Whenever the douchey jacket and handbag stuff starts to get to you, going over to youtube to relive Federer's Australian Open meltdown is always a good time
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Post by The Chloe on Jul 5, 2009 23:34:23 GMT -5
Let's not feel too bad for Andrew... if Rafa was healthy, he very likely would have been out in the QF. He made a run, but quite simply, Roger is far better than he is. Accept being #5-7. True stories, these.
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Post by The Chloe on Jul 5, 2009 23:35:34 GMT -5
The chatter afterward... Roger is the greatest ever? Maybe. The best of this generation? They're talking like it's a certainty. No. When someone else has defeated you in 6 slams, and won those 6 slams. And I wanted to punch him for the 15 on his jacket. If Andy would have won, he should have kicked him in the 15. Do you think Nadal will come even close to Fed in career numbers, though?
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Post by lexpretend on Jul 6, 2009 3:41:53 GMT -5
The Federer/Nadal H2H isn't as lopsided as people like to make out. And, like the Agassi/Sampras rivalry, a disproportion of their matches were played on Nadal's surface (though yeah, Nadal has now established his dominance over Fed away from clay - but for a year or two, they seemed to play 4 matches per year on clay, and maybe one elsewhere). Agree that it's the only possible mark against Fed as GOAT, though I don't think it's too meaningful stacked up against Fed's actual numbers.
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Post by Iorix on Jul 6, 2009 4:38:17 GMT -5
The chatter afterward... Roger is the greatest ever? Maybe. The best of this generation? They're talking like it's a certainty. No. When someone else has defeated you in 6 slams, and won those 6 slams. And I wanted to punch him for the 15 on his jacket. If Andy would have won, he should have kicked him in the 15. Do you think Nadal will come even close to Fed in career numbers, though? Depends on who wins this year's USO and next year's AO. If Fed reaches 17, that will be very difficult for Nadal to surpass, even though all that stuff about how Nadal's career will finish soon because of chronic injuries brought about by his playing style is probably just Fedtard-ish wishful thinking.
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Post by Iorix on Jul 6, 2009 4:42:46 GMT -5
Re: this match, in retrospect it seems quite odd. Granted, none of the tricks Fed typically uses to dismantle Roddick's game were working, but Fed seemed at a loss as to what to do once rallies began. When he plays Nadal, he seems to have at least an idea (even if misguided) of what he needs to do - he's just unable to execute, at least for long enough to stand a chance. Yesterday was different - genuine hesitations in shot selection, passive in rallies, by and large let Roddick overpower him around from the baseline. Roddick was was very consistent, even off the BH side, and as you pointed out he pulled off stuff he doesn't usually do (decent volleys, BH passing shots). But still.
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Post by leelee on Jul 6, 2009 10:02:21 GMT -5
The chatter afterward... Roger is the greatest ever? Maybe. The best of this generation? They're talking like it's a certainty. No. When someone else has defeated you in 6 slams, and won those 6 slams. And I wanted to punch him for the 15 on his jacket. If Andy would have won, he should have kicked him in the 15. Do you think Nadal will come even close to Fed in career numbers, though? I doubt Nadal can maintain this high level of play long enough to win that many slams. Statistically, Roger is GOAT. During the match, the announcers mention the "greatest match ever" from last year where Rafa conquered Roger on all surfaces. How Roger was struggling just 2 months ago. Then, he gets 2 slam draws where Rafa is hurt, and doesn't face any of the big 4 that's unquestionably had his number of late. Injuries happen, can't control the draw, blah blah I know... it just doesn't feel right.
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Post by DBBN on Jul 6, 2009 11:01:58 GMT -5
Sniffle. But beating Muzza and almost winning =
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