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Post by janie on Mar 8, 2007 14:35:47 GMT -5
If WTA rules allowed Mirjana to enter the rankings with just 2 events, by my figuring, already right now she'd rank in the low 500's. Winning a single tier 1 MD match allows you to jump right over hundreds of players, even if the player you beat is #628. I like that (at least I like it today ).
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Post by lexpretend on Mar 8, 2007 15:31:22 GMT -5
I love her but Benesova has always blown.
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Post by Grarliner on Mar 8, 2007 16:30:43 GMT -5
Loading up on points early in the year and coasting post-RG? She did it last year too. Some things never change. I know, but I really don't get it. Do you figure it's a stamina issue?
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Post by DBBN on Mar 8, 2007 17:37:16 GMT -5
I have to think at least part of it is because she knows her own limitations, and knows that she can take advantage of the early part of the season, where her main competition isn't warmed up enough to beat her regularly (at least from 1997-1999, and to a lesser extent since then), and maximize her point-gathering potential. You know she's sneaky like that.
Iveta has a hell of a game when she's on -- great moving, flat shots -- but it's a game that won't win if she's off, and then you lead to her real problem, which is that she gets demoralized when she hits a rough patch more so than other players, a la Zvonareva. Just look at her year-end rankings: 194, 82, 135, 36, 55, 60. Very up-and-down.
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Post by DBBN on Mar 8, 2007 17:38:17 GMT -5
..but she wins a crucial match, beating Bitchkova 7-6(5) in the third
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Post by lexpretend on Mar 8, 2007 18:16:35 GMT -5
Even in that 36 year...that was a bunch of good showings at Tier IVAs as I remember. Iveta's performances against top players have been pretty awful, as I remember, that Pierce win apart. Bitchkova (whom I also love!) sucks too. Meng Yuan won! She also sucks but I hope she gets back in the top 100; I like the fact that she's the rebel Chinese player sticking it to the system and doing it all for herself. The YAK was ROLLED
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Post by lexpretend on Mar 8, 2007 18:17:41 GMT -5
Oh, this wasn't the Indian Wells thread. Oh well.
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Post by Grarliner on Mar 9, 2007 2:34:30 GMT -5
I have to think at least part of it is because she knows her own limitations, and knows that she can take advantage of the early part of the season, where her main competition isn't warmed up enough to beat her regularly (at least from 1997-1999, and to a lesser extent since then), and maximize her point-gathering potential. You know she's sneaky like that. She may be. Australia has always worked for her, and that may just be why. She also said after last year's Wimbledon that she gets tired once she's there and that explains her poor results there. I don't know, it probably is wise for her to do as she has - I don't think future Wimbledon or US Open titles are coming, but hey, maybe at the other two.
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Post by Brinyi on Mar 21, 2007 10:31:06 GMT -5
Former Grand Slam champion Mikey Chang, seen here, is being lined up to coach one of China's top women's tennis hopes for the 2008 Olympic Games.
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Post by Brinyi on Mar 21, 2007 10:40:40 GMT -5
March 19 1 Justine Henin BEL 3645 + 1 2 Maria Sharapova RUS 3564 -1 3 Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 2947 + 1 4 Appendicitis Mauresmo FRA 2933 -1 5 Kim Clijsters BEL 2630 0 6 Martina Hingis SUI 2280 0 7 Nadia Petrova RUS 2135 0 8 Nicole Vaidisova RTC 1856 + 2 9 Jelena Jankovic SER 1823 0 10 Elena Dementieva RUS 1683 -2 11 Anna Chakvetadze RUS 1670 0 12 Daniela Hantuchova SLQ 1557 + 6 13 Patty Schnyder SUI 1552 0 14 Dinara Safina RUS 1528 -2 15 Ana Ivanovic SER 1447 -1 16 Shahar Peer ISR 1284 0 17 Na Li CHN 1282 0 18 Serena Williams USA 1269 -3 19 Tatiana Golovin FRA 1119 0 20 Vera Zvonareva RUS 1032 0 21 Francesca Schiavone ITA 949 0 22 Marion Bartoli FRA 923 + 1 23 Katarina Srebotnik SLO 915 -1 24 Ai Sugiyama JAP 869 0 25 Tathiana Garbin ITA 802 + 2 26 Lucie Safarova RTC 791 0 27 Samantha Stosur AUS 738 + 2 28 Ann-Lena Groenefeld ALL 730 -3 29 Anastasia Myskina RUS 696 -1 30 Sybille Bammer AUT 692 + 16 ... 51 Gisella Dulko ARG 465 -7 ... 57 Alicia Molik AUS 433 + 9 ... 62 Lindsay Davenport USA 427 -11 ... 66 Viktoria Azarenka BLR 398 + 10 ... 74 The Yak BLR 364 -10 ... 79 Alberta Brianti ITA 340 + 10 ... 86 Anna Smashnova-pistolesi ISR 323 -11 ... 109 Anne Kremer LUX 269 -10 ... 110 Bret Meusburger AUT 267 + 17 ... 113 Ahsha Rolle USA 262 + 15 ... 121 Carolina Wozniacki DAN 242 + 17 ... 130 Kirsten Flopkens BEL 229 -19 ... 140 Emma Laine FIN 215 -27 ... 186 Maret Ani EST 151 -33
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Post by Grarliner on Mar 21, 2007 11:22:55 GMT -5
Don't like Bammer?
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Post by Brinyi on Mar 21, 2007 11:33:59 GMT -5
I have nothing against her, but I just can't think of her as more than a Challenger/Qualy girl, and to be top 30 at this stage of her career is really weird.
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Post by Grarliner on Mar 21, 2007 13:35:07 GMT -5
I have nothing against her, but I just can't think of her as more than a Challenger/Qualy girl, and to be top 30 at this stage of her career is really weird. It is weird ... but the results are there ... I know what it all means. DOPING.
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Post by Brinyi on Mar 21, 2007 13:42:17 GMT -5
I have nothing against her, but I just can't think of her as more than a Challenger/Qualy girl, and to be top 30 at this stage of her career is really weird. It is weird ... but the results are there ... I know what it all means. DOPING. I know! I saw her shooting up with Li Na at Indian Wells. So sad.
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Post by janie on Mar 21, 2007 17:39:40 GMT -5
Tax Garbin hitting #25 deserves bold! Why is Anna-Lena's country ALL? Are they using the French word for Germany?
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Post by janie on Mar 21, 2007 17:40:38 GMT -5
And what is Vaidisova's RTC?
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Post by Maeby Fünke on Mar 21, 2007 17:57:59 GMT -5
Former Grand Slam champion Mikey Chang, seen here, is being lined up to coach one of China's top women's tennis hopes for the 2008 Olympic Games. Just as soon as hes finished his famous rendition of Candle In The Wind.
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Post by Grarliner on Mar 21, 2007 18:31:49 GMT -5
And what is Vaidisova's RTC? Republic of Czeck ....s?
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Post by Brinyi on Mar 21, 2007 19:12:22 GMT -5
Tax Garbin hitting #25 deserves bold! Why is Anna-Lena's country ALL? Are they using the French word for Germany? No, but I did.
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Post by Brinyi on Mar 21, 2007 19:14:25 GMT -5
Just as soon as hes finished his famous rendition of Candle In The Wind.
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Post by Grarliner on Mar 22, 2007 2:28:31 GMT -5
The Race: Serena remains #1, and Hingis remains #2. Maria passes Kim for #3. Daniela's title puts her at #8. Jankovic's consistency has her at #5. Sybille Bammer is #18. Molik #30. Paszek #49.
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Post by Grarliner on Apr 2, 2007 15:29:57 GMT -5
Henin now leads injured Maria by over 600 pts for #1. Kuznetsova's early defeat costs her #3, as Mauresmo and Clijsters pass her. Chak's semifinal moves her back into the top ten. Serena's title makes her #11 from #18. And she's not very far behind Vaidisova, Jankovic and Chakvetadze. If she plays Charleston, I count on her returning to the top ten. Injured Dementieva bids goodbye to the top ten, 10-12. Peer's semifinal moves her up 16-15. Schnyder vacates the top fifteen, 13-16. Ivanovic slides 15-17. Na Li dops despite the QF run, 17-18. Garbin rises one to #24. Santangelo 36-30. Penis 39-32. Myskina 29-35. Loit rejoins the top forty, 42-40. A. Radwanska 49-42. Shaughnessy 43-49. Kanepi 56-50. Does anybody like Bardina? She's up 61-53. Vak! 69-54. Camerin 53-66. SHevdova 84-71. The Douche rallies 101-75. The Bych 89-77. Paszek 100-83. The Hark 95-84. Jackson 73-85. US tennis has nothing ... Iveta 96-86. Is Smashnova retired? Brianti 79-92. Schruff 83-96. Poutchek 111-98. GOD! Roar.
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Post by lexpretend on Apr 4, 2007 16:19:27 GMT -5
Kanepi in the top 50! I thought this would happen years ago, then I thought it would never happen, now I'm...confused as to how it's happened. What exactly has she done outside of fluke-screaming Hasselt?
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Post by Grarliner on Apr 4, 2007 16:56:43 GMT -5
Kanepi in the top 50! I thought this would happen years ago, then I thought it would never happen, now I'm...confused as to how it's happened. What exactly has she done outside of fluke-screaming Hasselt? Uhhh .. a weak USO 3r, which in today's ranking terms, is the same as upsetting the #1 seed en route. Other than that, not that much.
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Post by sasha on Apr 4, 2007 17:02:55 GMT -5
Jamea will still be the top USian when Serena/Venus stop caring again. And if she stops getting old people injuries.
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Post by Grarliner on Apr 4, 2007 17:05:35 GMT -5
Speaking of Serena and Venus, they are #1 and #44 in the Race, respectively.
Serena has an edge on #2 Henin of 480 pts. Quite a bit.
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Post by corswandt on Apr 4, 2007 17:24:12 GMT -5
The current #10-20 range is the strongest I remember. In early 2006, we had players like Dechy, slumping Myskina, sucky Hantuchova, Likhovtseva and Pennetta, all of which never won more than two consecutive matches, on those same places. All those ITF whores who climbed from #130 to 60 by reaching 3 50 k finals last year are still stinking up the top 100, but hopefully they'll be replaced by equally crap qualifiers who happen to make a fluke run at a TI somewhere.
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Post by Grarliner on Apr 4, 2007 22:36:16 GMT -5
The current #10-20 range is the strongest I remember. In early 2006, we had players like Dechy, slumping Myskina, sucky Hantuchova, Likhovtseva and Pennetta, all of which never won more than two consecutive matches, on those same places. All those ITF whores who climbed from #130 to 60 by reaching 3 50 k finals last year are still stinking up the top 100, but hopefully they'll be replaced by equally crap qualifiers who happen to make a fluke run at a TI somewhere. That strength is relative. Nevertheless, I think you're right. A quality crop of players not that far beneath the elite lurk between #10-20. Rather uncommon for women's tennis.
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Post by DBBN on Apr 7, 2007 17:31:08 GMT -5
Yeah. I think we've been talking about this for a few weeks now. It was a really good Top 18, with a couple of exceptions...now it's a really good Top 20, with a couple of exceptions.
But it's a weak Top 10, no? Players not named Justine, Maria, or Serena are interchangeable, right? I think that may be what S2 is referring to -- because only three players are really good makes the rest of the Top 20 look better than they really are because they beat the Top 5-10 more than players 11-20 used to be able to in the past. I mean, retiring Clijsters, Hingis, Jankovic, Vaidisova, Chak...no better than, say, Peer, Li, Golovin, Hantuchova, Ivanovic, as groups.
Yet none of them compare to Justine/Serena/Maria. 4 through 20 are close, but are they good?
Still...it's a very competitive Top 20. Which is indisputable, and great for the game.
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Post by lexpretend on Apr 8, 2007 19:40:44 GMT -5
Well, basically it's an OK-ish top 3 (one of whom isn't in it), not particularly impressive because two of them are a couple of years removed from their respective peaks and certainly not back to those levels yet, and the other is in some kind of mysterious if not entirely unwelcome slump. Then you have Mauresmo and Clijsters who are still a league above the rest even though one of them has her mind more on her wedding list than winning matches. Then you have a really level, competitive 6-20.
So we have depth, of sorts, but this hasn't translated into excellence. But this year is more positive than the last forever, because it at least seems like some of the 6-20 might start to be excellent.
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