|
|
Post by RogiFan on May 27, 2003 9:09:25 GMT -5
 You know, I think Rogi is suffering from sth far worse than choking or lack of interest -- more like stagefright. This can be v serious and sometimes people never get over it. He just freezes so much that he can't move -- he was falling all over the place in that match and couldn't make his brain work his body. He w never normally make that many UEs. I am now worried about Rogi's future. Even in one French paper they were concerned. Pls, Rogi, talk it out, don't deny it, confront it and overcome it.  
|
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on May 27, 2003 16:22:18 GMT -5
Just some articles to see what everyone says about Rogi's loss: Federer falls victim to Horna's power and persistence Swiss world No 5 loses to powerful Peruvian in first round while Williams launches title defence with easy win By John Roberts in Paris 27 May 2003 Roger Federer's first-round loss at the French Open here yesterday was a surprise but not a shock. The 21-year-old Swiss is a sublimely talented player who sometimes seems so laid back that he is almost horizontal. He will never be a do-or-die, all-action competitor like Austria's Thomas Muster, the player who inspired Federer's opponent, Luis Horna, from Peru. Horna, a runner-up as a junior at the French Open in 1997, walked into Roland Garros yesterday, ranked No 88 in the world, to play in the main event for the first time and won for the first time at a Grand Slam championship, having lost in the opening round of last year's United States Open and the Australian Open in January. Displaying a lively clay-court style, built around a powerful forehand, the 22-year-old from Lima pounced at Federer from the opening game and worked relentlessly to win, 7-6, 6-2, 7-6, after two hours and 11 minutes. His performance was reminiscent of the Spaniard Felix Mantilla's win against Federer in the final of the Rome Masters earlier this month, when the Swiss world No 5 lost momentum and lapsed into errors, shrugging rather than surging. Federer made a fight of the opening set yesterday, recovering from 0-3 only to be broken when serving for the set at 5-4, missing a backhand. The Swiss held a set point at 6-5 in the tie-break, hitting a forehand wide of an open court, and lost the shoot-out, 8-6, landing a smash wide of an open court. "After he missed the set point," Horna said, "his attitude seemed to go down." Horna won the first four games of the second set, building his confidence to a pitch where not even Federer's best shots were able to jolt him. Although he twice served to stay in the third set, at 4-5 and 5-6, Horna never appeared to be flustered. Federer was under pressure throughout the third set tie-break and double-faulted to 3-5, Horna going on to secure the concluding two points. Shaking a fist in triumph, Horna celebrated his best day on a tennis court. "I'm on Centre Court playing and winning my first match at the French Open, and last month my daughter, Luna, was born, and things are pretty good for me right now," he said. One of the few players to have made his Davis Cup debut as a 14-year-old, Horna has worked his way through "good times and really bad times" in his career. His game has been moulded on the clay courts of Argentina by his coach, Gabriel Markus, and he regards Buenos Aires as his second home. "I definitely think I helped him [today]," Federer said. "He definitely didn't play a bad match, but I didn't play a good match. It's a big disappointment." It was not, Federer emphasised, a question of underestimating an opponent he had beaten in straight sets in their only previous meeting on a rubberised concrete court in Key Biscayne in March. "I knew the danger," he said. "People were saying, 'Who is the first seed you're playing?' I told them, 'You guys have to relax a little bit, because I'm not playing a bad guy in the first round.' Here I am, sitting here, trying to explain why." Federer has lost in the first round three times in five appearances at Roland Garros. Last year he was dispatched by Hicham Arazi, of Morocco, and two weeks later was beaten in the first round at Wimbledon by the big-serving Mario Ancic, of Croatia. In 2001, Federer was a quarter-finalist at the French Open and Wimbledon, where he eliminated Pete Sampras before losing to Britain's Tim Henman. Constantly told that he is the classiest player in the game, Federer again showed that he can be a let-down. But that will not stop your correspondent, among others, from keeping faith and naming him as one of the players most likely to win the Wimbledon men's singles title less than six weeks hence, trusting that he will be more forceful on the grass. Ancic, who has had a lean time since losing to Juan Carlos Ferrero, of Spain, in the fourth round of the Australian Open, is due to play Andre Agassi, the second seed, in round two. Ancic was the beneficiary yesterday of Marcelo Rios's retirement with an arm injury with the Croatian leading, 6-1, 1-0. Agassi breezed past Karol Beck, of Slovakia, 6-2, 6-3, 6-3. Alex Corretja, the 16th seed, lost to a fellow Spaniard, Galo Blanco, a qualifier, 5-7, 6-3, 6-0, 7-5. ... source sport.independent.co.uk/
|
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on May 27, 2003 16:22:39 GMT -5
French Open Federer folds in the red dust Peruvian, Luis Horna, makes fifth seed Swiss roll on out of town. Stephen Bierley in Paris Tuesday May 27, 2003 The Guardian What may be best be described as reverse alchemy took place on the Philippe Chatrier Court at Roland Garros yesterday. Roger Federer, the No5 seed and one of the most talented and naturally gifted players in the modern game, was beaten 7-6, 6-2, 7-6 by Luis Horna of Peru on the first day at Roland Garros. Here was Swiss gold transformed into base metal. "It's going to be tough for me ever to win this tournament," admitted a disappointed and palpably saddened Federer, which was rather to miss the point. Simply getting past the first round would be a step in the right direction. For Federer was knocked out at the same stage here last year and four weeks later lost in the first round at Wimbledon too. He is only 21 but in 16 grand slam starts Federer has now lost in the first round on six occasions. And this is a shocking waste, both personally and for the public, because when he reached the quarter-finals of both Roland Garros and Wimbledon as a 19-year-old it appeared his passage from junior to senior tennis was running smooth and true and that a star was very much in the ascendant. In a tennis world that often appears chock-a-block with artisans, the Swiss youngster is an obvious artist and a delight to watch. He is heavily built but moves with grace and can conjure winners of sumptuous power and precision off forehand and backhand. Unfortunately there is a crack in the mirror. It is not that Federer is incapable of winning tournaments; he has seven titles in all, three of them this year in Marseille, Dubai and Munich. But, given his obvious ability, he has become a continual under-achiever at the grand slam events. He had a huge chance to reverse this trend at the Australian Open this year, only to play a frustrating match against Argentina's David Nalbandian in the fourth round, losing 6-4, 3-6, 6-1, 1-6, 6-3, a score that well reflected the erratic nature of his play - brilliant one minute, wildly profligate the next. He played wonderfully at this year's Italian Open in Rome, only to lose the final against Spain's Felix Mantilla in the most miserable manner. On such occasions, and the same happened yesterday against Horna, Federer's head goes down and his demeanour become more and more lethargic. It is not a pretty sight. Perhaps it is the perfectionist within him for, when things begin to go wrong, and yesterday his timing, particularly on the backhand, was constantly askew, he sinks into ever deeper and blacker introspection. In his young days Federer used to rage against his own imperfections, smashing rackets and getting himself thrown out of practice halls. Perhaps he needs to resurrect that anger and channel it to his advantage. For the time being, it appears as if he gives up. There are some players who grow to hate the French Open, Pete Sampras being the obvious example. Confronted with this, Federer said: "It's not a question I can answer. I reached the last eight here two years ago, so I'm not going to start hating the tournament just because I lost twice in the first round." Those who watched him demolish Sampras at Wimbledon two years ago and thought they were seeing the birth of a new and outstanding champion will wonder if that match was nothing more than a marvellous cameo and whether Federer simply does not possess the temperament to transform talent into major titles. Andre Agassi's temperament has not always been as constant as the northern star but his eight grand slam titles bear testimony to talent and yesterday he eased into the second round with a routine 6-2, 6-3, 6-3 victory over the Slovakian youngster Karol Beck. "Nerves and pressure are two different things," said Agassi. "Once you've been through it a few times you realise it boils down to what happens between the lines." Federer needs to learn that. source sport.guardian.co.uk/tennisFederer: I cannot find my way on the clay By LEO SCHLINK 28may03 ROGER Federer, the player favoured by most of his peers to eventually ascend to the top of the rankings mountain, has conceded French Open success could prove beyond him. Seeded fifth and sitting second in the Champions Race after another productive claycourt season, the Swiss wizard was dispatched by Peruvian Luis Horna on Monday night, 7-6 (8-6) 6-2 7-6 (7-3). It was Federer's third first-round humiliation in his past five majors. The Horna loss follows similar efforts against Hicham Arazi at Roland Garros and Croat teenager Mario Ancic at Wimbledon. It has fuelled the theory Federer lacks the killer instinct and self-belief at the highest level to match an almost unparalleled shot-making arsenal. "I know it's going to be tough for me ever to win this tournament," Federer, 21, said. "This is no secret. I know I have natural ability on clay, the way I move, but it's definitely the surface I have to do the most progress (on). "It's the surface I've made the most progress also, but (I) still have a lot of work to do on clay. "It's a big disappointment, very sad to leave so early." Coached by Swede Peter Lundgren, Federer's best grand slam results came under Australian mentor Peter Carter, who was killed in a car accident in South Africa last year. Against Horna, Federer did nothing more than reproduce the slack practice-court form that had been the talk of a knowing locker-room. No fewer than 82 unforced errors flowed from his racquet. Federer's misery contrasted vividly with the amiable Horna's joy. "This is the most wonderful feeling that I've ever had throughout my life," Horna beamed. "In the past days, I've been high because I've been anxious. My first time at Roland Garros, I've been very nervous. "The fact that I was going to play Federer in first round, I was a bit nervous. "But I spoke yesterday to my coach (Gabriel Markus). He said, 'Better than your possibilities tomorrow, you will never have them. Try to make the best of them. You have to feel very happy'." Meanwhile, dual French finalist Alex Corretja, the 16th seed, came to grief 5-7 6-3 6-0 7-5 against Spanish compatriot Galo Blanco. ... source www.heraldsun.news.com.au/
|
|
|
|
Post by ILR on May 27, 2003 16:45:53 GMT -5
Well the 2nd one seems more focused on his strengths and the good in him. I guess it is an unanswered question as to why he cant do well in RG. I read a couple of quotes on the teletext yesterday too but thanks for them |
|
|
|
Post by Lee on May 27, 2003 19:28:57 GMT -5
More frustrating will be Horna is the kind of players that play brilliantly in one round, defeated a high ranking player then crushed out in next round.
RogiFan, I don't think Roger's problem is choking, lack of interest or stagefright. He definitely has a problem and it will be worse if he keeps bowing out in early rounds in GS. He needs help from sports psychiatrist and I hope he can commit himself to that.
|
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on May 27, 2003 20:49:59 GMT -5
More frustrating will be Horna is the kind of players that play brilliantly in one round, defeated a high ranking player then crushed out in next round. RogiFan, I don't think Roger's problem is choking, lack of interest or stagefright. He definitely has a problem and it will be worse if he keeps bowing out in early rounds in GS. He needs help from sports psychiatrist and I hope he can commit himself to that. Well, if Rogi's open to a psychiatrist, it could help -- nothing ventured, nothing gained! Escude was NOT open to one and therefore wasn't helped. Rogi has to face this straight on... no avoiding it -- the sooner the better. Pls, pls Rogi!  |
|
|
|
Post by Vera on May 27, 2003 23:08:16 GMT -5
*sigh* I hope Rogi won't feel so despair. Just put it behind him and move on. The worse part of losing this one is to keep dwelling on it. Don't bring the bad memory to Wimby. I still think he can win Wimby any time, hopefully soon.
|
|
|
|
Post by Doris on May 28, 2003 5:46:06 GMT -5
Never thought of stagefright but that might be it.
Not beeing able to go out there relaxed and just be happy to be able to play tennis...
...putting extra pressure on himself by knowing he actually has to win this and wants to make it too perfect but isn't relaxed enough and the winner turns into an UE....
|
|
|
|
Post by Doris on Jun 6, 2003 6:47:20 GMT -5
Good luck in Halle Roger!!
Show what you actually can!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on Jun 7, 2003 12:47:23 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on Jun 7, 2003 19:13:28 GMT -5
Did you know that Rogi will be playing doubles w Yves Allegro in Halle? AND he faces Sargsian in the first round of singles. HOPP, ROGI!  [it's been a while since I've said that!]
|
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on Jun 8, 2003 20:31:35 GMT -5
HOPP, ROGI und YVES!! You can't cheer enough for ROGI! Hope Rogi was inspired by Juanqui's magnificent run and victory at RG03!! So many things that helped him win today!! :angel:  VIVA EL REY JUAN CARLOS, REY DE LA TIERRA BATIDA!!
|
|
Sue
Full Member
Posts: 225
|
Post by Sue on Jun 9, 2003 3:27:41 GMT -5
Hi everyone! Seems like ages the last time I was here...but at last we can start cheering ROGI on again!! GOOOOO ROGER!! And only TWO weeks to Wimbledon...I'm SO excited...and praying that I can watch Rogi play... |
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on Jun 9, 2003 11:20:48 GMT -5
Rogi and Yves won their doubles match vs. Carlsen/Kucera 63 62!! OK, Rogi, now win your singles vs. Sargsian -- tomorrow?
|
|
Lily
Full Member
Posts: 211
|
Post by Lily on Jun 9, 2003 18:14:19 GMT -5
 Rogi and Yves won their doubles match vs. Carlsen/Kucera 63 62!! OK, Rogi, now win your singles vs. Sargsian -- tomorrow? Rogi won a match?  I guess doubles counts... anything counts at this point. Did you hear about the Swiss who won the boy's title. I think his name is Stan Wawrinka. He beat Amer Brian Baker. ;D Congrats to Stan! And Congrats to Justine and Juanqui! Two deserving champions! |
|
|
|
Post by Doris on Jun 10, 2003 1:57:43 GMT -5
Finally we can "see" Roger again!! The wait was long enoght but it's over now!!
Good luck Roger today against SS!!
Allleeezzzz Roger!!
And concrats for winning first round in doubles!!
btw Lili chech the other swiss players thread there you can find a tiny pic from Stanislas Wawrinka the new RG juniors champ!!
|
|
|
|
Post by Doris on Jun 10, 2003 7:48:47 GMT -5
Alllleeezzz Roger wake up!!!
he just got broke
SS leads 3:2 ähhh I mean 4:2
Allleeezzz Roger !!
Come on you have to win this!!
|
|
|
|
Post by Doris on Jun 10, 2003 8:07:52 GMT -5
Phuuu 5:5 Roger was finally able to break back. Still he's wasting far to many bp I guess he had 3 or 4 already...
|
|
|
|
Post by ILR on Jun 10, 2003 8:14:47 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by Doris on Jun 10, 2003 8:20:39 GMT -5
And he manages to win the first set 7:5!!
Keep it up Roger!!
|
|
|
|
Post by ILR on Jun 10, 2003 8:30:44 GMT -5
good stuff! ;D Go Rogi!  |
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on Jun 10, 2003 8:38:10 GMT -5
Hi Rogi peops!! Gotta go for a meeting soon, yuk... oh well! ROGI One set down, one to go! Doris, is this on TV in SUI?? Did Kiwi win? [Niemeyer, he's Canadian!!]
|
|
Sue
Full Member
Posts: 225
|
Post by Sue on Jun 10, 2003 8:40:13 GMT -5
Go Rogi!!! A meeting RF??? Tell them you've got more important things to do..ie follow Rogers match on the SB! Hopp Hopp!! |
|
|
|
Post by ILR on Jun 10, 2003 8:40:54 GMT -5
 RF hes 3-1 up in the 2nd. About these emails, how many messages are we sending? lol I got another e mail off Mrs.B but I think its for the same message I sent to Sue  I hope she got my e mail back! |
|
|
|
Post by ILR on Jun 10, 2003 8:41:42 GMT -5
Sue coincidence! lol I was just talking about you Did you get my e mail back? |
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on Jun 10, 2003 8:46:32 GMT -5
 RF hes 3-1 up in the 2nd. About these emails, how many messages are we sending? lol I got another e mail off Mrs.B but I think its for the same message I sent to Sue I hope she got my e mail back! Yeah it was my orig em to everyone about the Rogi msge... I'm still composing mine... for the 3rd time! Maybe I'll send him several? We s also put where we're fr too so Rogi knows how many fans he has worldwide! HOPP, ROGi! Just win this OK, doll? |
|
|
|
Post by Doris on Jun 10, 2003 8:54:06 GMT -5
After a though first set he finaly showed who's the master!! Roger won 7:5 6:1!! Keep it up Roger!! Yes Kiwi won too 6:3 6:0 Sue as for the message I have to be in a perfect mood to get my lyrics going. Couse I want to write a little more than just Viel Glück Roger!! Even though that will be the main message. And yes I'll do it in German hope you don't mind |
|
|
|
Post by ILR on Jun 10, 2003 8:56:25 GMT -5
yay 6-1 in the 2nd! Congrats are in order |
|
|
|
Post by RogiFan on Jun 10, 2003 9:16:28 GMT -5
 yay 6-1 in the 2nd! Congrats are in order ROGI OK, babe, keep going until you win the tourney... don't let anyone get in your way now!! Focus, be serious, work hard, have a plan... all the things that won Juanqui his first slam!! |
|
|
|
Post by ILR on Jun 10, 2003 14:42:03 GMT -5
What he says about today "It's difficult to switch from clay to grass. I've been here a while since Wednesday, but the Stadium Court is different from the other courts. The traction on the court is different. But Sargsian let me back into that match, I think. He should have won the first set, but he didn't. "My clay court season wasn't that long, but it's always great to come back on grass. It feels natural for me. I'm really happy to have reached the second round, because it's sometimes tricky to get used to it. But I felt good on the court. "There's a lot of work to be done [before Wimbledon]. I have to improve my serve and volley game, have to feel more comfortable on grass, concentrate more on the service, hit more aces and consistent returns. That means I need more practice on grass to prepare for Wimbledon." |
|
You know, I think Rogi is suffering from sth far worse than choking or lack of interest -- more like stagefright. This can be v serious and sometimes people never get over it. He just freezes so much that he can't move -- he was falling all over the place in that match and couldn't make his brain work his body. He w never normally make that many UEs. I am now worried about Rogi's future. Even in one French paper they were concerned.
I guess doubles counts... anything counts at this point.
I hope she got my e mail back!