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Post by janie on Sept 6, 2009 20:30:22 GMT -5
Maybe that's who I have! I wish you hadn't told me that.
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Post by leelee on Sept 6, 2009 20:33:30 GMT -5
This match has been really good. Don't hate. I'm so glad Bepa is back to playing quality tennis. Oh, one negative, why has Bepa started screaming.
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Post by Calico on Sept 6, 2009 20:34:37 GMT -5
Another Russian choke job at the U.S. Open. Some credit goes to Pennetta but Vera won't recover from this disaster in this match and probably not the rest of her career.
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Sept 6, 2009 20:35:34 GMT -5
I missed the last couple of games. What was the "huge amount of inappropriate behaviour" (yes, it sounds equally horrible in Serbian) Zvonareva displayed that the commentator is talking about?
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Post by leelee on Sept 6, 2009 20:35:37 GMT -5
Oh, stop it.
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Post by R. Black on Sept 6, 2009 20:36:33 GMT -5
Yes, it's weird to hear Bepa screaming like that. It's not de Screamo, but sometimes it's strident.
Really good match indeed. Just a shame Bepa is going to lose it.
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Post by R. Black on Sept 6, 2009 20:37:21 GMT -5
Another Russian choke job at the U.S. Open. Some credit goes to Pennetta but Vera won't recover from this disaster in this match and probably not the rest of her career. Please. Why wouldn't Bepa recover from that particular match, LOL. As if it's the first time in her career she blows a lead.
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Post by leelee on Sept 6, 2009 20:38:39 GMT -5
And it wasn't even a choke. Sure, Bepa played defensive, but Flav was money on every match point.
And I still disagree that Flavia is now is much improved. But, whatevz. She's playing well.
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Post by leelee on Sept 6, 2009 20:39:57 GMT -5
Bepa seems to have copied Demented's occasional grunts, and that like primal scream she does in the important points.
NO SCREAMING STOP
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Post by Maeby Fünke on Sept 6, 2009 20:47:19 GMT -5
Firefox crashed at 5-0 30-0, I take it Vera is staging an epic fightback now?
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Post by Maeby Fünke on Sept 6, 2009 20:52:42 GMT -5
I guess not. The first two sets were good, shame she completely stopped thinking in the 3rd. Now I can stop caring too! Yay.
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Post by Calico on Sept 6, 2009 21:12:25 GMT -5
And it wasn't even a choke. Sure, Bepa played defensive, but Flav was money on every match point. And I still disagree that Flavia is now is much improved. But, whatevz. She's playing well. If you lost a match in a grand slam in which you had 6 match points you choked. That's what happened to Vera against Flavia.
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Post by Calico on Sept 6, 2009 21:18:42 GMT -5
Another Russian choke job at the U.S. Open. Some credit goes to Pennetta but Vera won't recover from this disaster in this match and probably not the rest of her career. Please. Why wouldn't Bepa recover from that particular match, LOL. As if it's the first time in her career she blows a lead. Because it's a match to get Vera to the second week of the U.S. Open. This is the U.S. Open not the Japan Open or any other unimportnat WTA tournament. Zvonareva wasted 6 match points and lost the match against Pennetta. I doubt Vera has ever done that at a grand slam before and that's why losing this match they way she did is particulary devastating to her as her behaviour in the third set showed. Come on Taylor shock the tennis world!
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Post by The Chloe on Sept 6, 2009 21:31:32 GMT -5
Yes! One sistah is gone. Let all the seeds lose, except Bepa and Sveta. Boo. Wrong sister gone.
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Post by leelee on Sept 6, 2009 21:38:15 GMT -5
A choke entails losing because your nerves directly made you lose. That did not happen. And this wasn't career changing. The winner plays Serena Williams in a night match at the US Open in the QF.
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Post by Calico on Sept 6, 2009 21:45:37 GMT -5
A choke entails losing because your nerves directly made you lose. That did not happen. And this wasn't career changing. The winner plays Serena Williams in a night match at the US Open in the QF. True on the Serena part she will waste Pennetta or Vera if she had won. But we disagree on the choke part in Vera's crushing loss and that's not going to change.
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Post by DBBN on Sept 6, 2009 21:53:31 GMT -5
Oh LOL. I am so glad I left when I did.
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Post by Grarliner on Sept 6, 2009 23:03:15 GMT -5
And it wasn't even a choke. Sure, Bepa played defensive, but Flav was money on every match point. And I still disagree that Flavia is now is much improved. But, whatevz. She's playing well. If you lost a match in a grand slam in which you had 6 match points you choked. That's what happened to Vera against Flavia. No way. Flavia came up with the goods on every mp. She had plenty of chances to miss or double fault and she didn't. You've got to give her credit for that much. Vera should be ashamed of the third set, though. She could still have won that match. Instead, she had a mental meltdown, including a f-bomb at the 3-0 changeover just before the commercial. For no reason. Why, someone tell me, was she almost in tears BEFORE the tiebreak ended? Why didn't she believe she could win in 3? It was PENNETTA, not, like, Steffi. Tim Ryan went easy on her in his commentary, but he was spot on when he said he was watching the behavior of a 14-year-old in that third set. I don't know if that was a career-changing match. As was pointed out, the draw wasn't open or anything. It might be one of those matches that define her career, though. Honestly, I'm disappointed. I thought Vera was past that immaturity.
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Post by leelee on Sept 6, 2009 23:16:52 GMT -5
That's Bepa being Bepa! She never changed with the crying, and the temper, and the insanity... she just usually plays decent while doing so. Not today.
It's interesting how us elitists hate the current state of Women's Tennis, when Vera started this long ago. I guess she's so weak and crazy that it turned back around to us liking her.
And she'll be fine. Vera has lost 1234234 3-set matches to top ranked players. She'll be a top 10-ish player that will be overranked again probably because she plays a lot, and will never ever win a slam. The end.
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Post by Grarliner on Sept 7, 2009 1:17:17 GMT -5
Leena, I don't like Vera and never did. Hurley is somehow attracted to any player with the crying, the temper and the insanity, but not me ...
I will say that it was nice she didn't get away with that. Women's tennis is in the state where you could have that meltdown, go 0-5 down, and come back!
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Post by GoDom on Sept 7, 2009 1:45:49 GMT -5
I don't like Vera either. But I like Pennetta so I'm pleased with the result.
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Post by lexpretend on Sept 7, 2009 2:57:04 GMT -5
Poor Bepa Still. An improvement on the 4 and 2 loss to Flavia in LA. She still gets an injury comeback pass, and she said that she knew she couldn't go three sets beforehand. Flavia was a set and 3-0 up on Serena at Miami '08, their only meeting, before the rain came. A chance? Sigh.
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Post by Maeby Fünke on Sept 7, 2009 7:08:56 GMT -5
It was more career defining than career changing. Its hardly going to cause her a problem in future when she already has one. She might be coming back from injury but she still completely gave up. Thats very disappointing.
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Post by janie on Sept 7, 2009 8:21:16 GMT -5
Ha, it was hilarious watching Bepa beating on her bandages with her racquet! But I turned the match off after that, since it was clear she had no thought of trying to win any longer. But I saw all the MPs and I agree with those who say those were NOT chokes but Pennetta taking it to Bepa who continued to play defensively but not at all in a tight, scaredy-cat manner like a Mauresmo. Also agree that this was just another Bepa meltdown and will not affect her career whatsoever. I don't know why the cat is being so dramatic about this, but maybe he's just forgotten what it's like to watch a Bepa match. Anyway I hope she can get those leg problems sorted out so she can come back and entertain us more next year with her dramatics.
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Post by janie on Sept 7, 2009 8:25:33 GMT -5
“She’s always like this,” Pennetta said. “I know her. She can cry on the court and the next point she fights and play good tennis.” But Zvonareva denied she was angry. Surprisingly composed after the match, she said she was angry with herself for not calling the trainer out to have the tape fixed properly. “I didn’t lose my temper,” she said. “That’s first of all. I think I was fighting the best I can.” Certainly, Zvonareva has had a difficult summer, missing eight weeks with an ankle injury after a good start to the year. She reached the semifinals at the Australian Open, where she lost to Dinara Safina, and won at Indian Wells, both on hardcourts. But since then she has only made it past the second round twice in the eight tournaments she entered. Pennetta, on the other hand, is in the midst of a terrific summer. She won on clay at Palermo and on the hardcourts in Los Angeles, and before the Open she made it to the semifinals at New Haven. As a reward, on Aug. 17 she reached No. 10 in the world so there were high hopes of a nation riding along with her. The second set demonstrated her impressive determination. At 5-6 in the second, Pennetta saved the first match point by hitting a terrific inside-out forehand down the line that froze Zvonareva, and then saved another match point by pushing Zvonareva behind the baseline and then zinging an easy forehand volley. On the third match point it took eight stokes, but Pennetta finally hit an overhead behind Zvonareva to once again get it back to deuce. By the fourth match point Pennetta appeared emotionally and physically drained, but once again she forced Zvonareva back on her heels before putting away a slam. In the tiebreaker Zvonareva led 6-4, but she hit a forehand return long. On the final one at 6-5, Pennetta hit a backhand crosscourt winner, and by then it was clear what was to come. Zvonareva was cramping, her knees hurt, and she knew if she did not win in the second set, it was all over. “Yeah, you can be frustrated, but I don’t have regrets about this match,” she said. “I did my best. I couldn’t have done a better job today.”
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Post by DBBN on Sept 7, 2009 10:33:23 GMT -5
The male commentators are talking about it on CBS...well, all it took was a nuclear meltdown, but Bepa is finally a star.
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Post by Brinyi on Sept 7, 2009 10:37:48 GMT -5
I never had any time for Bepa, and never liked her, so I guess I'm not an elitist. WHEW!
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Post by leelee on Sept 7, 2009 12:11:26 GMT -5
That.
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Post by Iorix on Sept 8, 2009 4:34:37 GMT -5
I never had any time for Bepa, and never liked her, so I guess I'm not an elitist. WHEW! I enjoy watching Bepa play a lot - the way she can consistently and effortlessly shift the direction of the ball can be amazing. But I believe she's one of the "bridesmaids" who happened to fall into the places vacated by the stars who retired in recent years without improving her own game enough for it to seem fully deserved.
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