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Post by The Chloe on May 29, 2011 11:47:00 GMT -5
As much as I love FRAN (and I did begin rooting for her when she made shit happen versus JaJa who was whining and crying), I'd probably root for her opponent if she played Bartoli or Sharapova. Sometimes, I want to punch you in the face. This was one of those times. |
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Post by Traveling Man on May 29, 2011 11:51:55 GMT -5
As much as I love FRAN (and I did begin rooting for her when she made shit happen versus JaJa who was whining and crying), I'd probably root for her opponent if she played Bartoli or Sharapova. Sometimes, I want to punch you in the face. This was one of those times. I know everyone HATES Sharapova so I won't get into that, but Bartoli is just too awesome. I'd love for her to win a Slam - and that's not out of the realm of possibility anymore since this is SEWTA 2011. Fran's got her Slam - if she and Bartoli were to meet here it'd be a SF and I'd rather Bartoli get the final (and possibly title). |
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Post by Wagasi on May 29, 2011 11:53:45 GMT -5
Exactly. The contrast couldn't have been starker today. Even in the second set when Fran was spraying errors all over the place, she was still working hard to make things happen and clearly had a plan, the shots just weren't coming. JJ just moped around waiting for errors, flubbing forehands, hitting stupid dropshots every other point, looking distressed hitting the simplest volleys, and acting surprised when her backhands became winners. It was like JJ was waiting for her game to automatically somehow come together so that she could cruise on autopilot to victory. Fran was in it to win.
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Post by The Chloe on May 29, 2011 11:55:50 GMT -5
Fran is basically the anti-SEWTA and for that we love her. The opposite of the mental weaklings who gag at the slightest hint of an opportunity, the opposite of the unfit lumps who refuse to get fit, the opposite of the pampered divas who act as though playing the sport outside of the limelight is beneath them. And of course the opposite of the one-dimensional, unimaginative players who only know how to either push the ball back mid-court or whack it brainlessly while praying for winners. This post is Yes. |
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Post by The Chloe on May 29, 2011 11:57:30 GMT -5
Sometimes, I want to punch you in the face. This was one of those times. I know everyone HATES Sharapova so I won't get into that, but Bartoli is just too awesome. I'd love for her to win a Slam - and that's not out of the realm of possibility anymore since this is SEWTA 2011. Fran's got her Slam - if she and Bartoli were to meet here it'd be a SF and I'd rather Bartoli get the final (and possibly title). I actually wouldn't hate on Sharapova if she didn't make stupid noises. That is seriously the primary reason that I find her completely unwatchable. I have no opinion on Bartoli. |
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:02:48 GMT -5
Bartoli seems a bit hard to take sometimes. As a tennis player, she is pretty good, but she's been trying to match that high watermark at Wimbledon four years ago with little success. This is her biggest chance.
Meanwhile, I don't think Dulko quite deserves the pusher label. She isn't as big as the bashers on the Tour but she can hit a forehand for winners. And she just did it twice to call up double break point at 3-5.
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Post by Traveling Man on May 29, 2011 12:05:55 GMT -5
I know everyone HATES Sharapova so I won't get into that, but Bartoli is just too awesome. I'd love for her to win a Slam - and that's not out of the realm of possibility anymore since this is SEWTA 2011. Fran's got her Slam - if she and Bartoli were to meet here it'd be a SF and I'd rather Bartoli get the final (and possibly title). I actually wouldn't hate on Sharapova if she didn't make stupid noises. That is seriously the primary reason that I find her completely unwatchable. I have no opinion on Bartoli. If it came down to a Bartoli-Sharapova final, I'd root for Bartoli. Ofcourse since she's my #1 favourite from the women left, she'll lose 7-5, 6-0 to Dulko. |
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:07:15 GMT -5
Why any of you would have preferred Jankovic or were even neutral shocks me. Haven't you seen how she's played for the last year?
Dulko just ... magnificent hold to 5-5. To love. Two drop shots and two good serves.
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Post by Wagasi on May 29, 2011 12:07:25 GMT -5
Cake is quirky and all, but she has no business winning here. It would be hilarious if she did though as that would mean that the only two Frenchwomen to win RG in modern times were outsiders and divas who didn't get along with the establishment. Still, she really should not win.
One of the commentators mentioned that Golovin has been working with Fran this RG. WTF could Golovin teach Fran?
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Post by Traveling Man on May 29, 2011 12:07:33 GMT -5
Bartoli seems a bit hard to take sometimes. As a tennis player, she is pretty good, but she's been trying to match that high watermark at Wimbledon four years ago with little success. This is her biggest chance. Meanwhile, I don't think Dulko quite deserves the pusher label. She isn't as big as the bashers on the Tour but she can hit a forehand for winners. And she just did it twice to call up double break point at 3-5. Agreed. She hit some nifty winners against Stosur as well (although Sam did help with a ton of errors). This injury timeout and Dulko's improved play aren't helping Bartoli out. 5-2 to 5-5. Cake doesn't tend to panic though. She just gets on with it. |
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:08:35 GMT -5
The dropshot is working to great effect. Marion is SLOW.
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Post by Bruguera's heavy balls on May 29, 2011 12:09:58 GMT -5
Wozniackis pushing is really remarkable, because as you said, nowadays, even the low power players hit winners, Woz often goes sets with less than 2 winners.
I read a few days ago some Woz fan saying that Woz is much better than prime Sabatini because in those times players played in slow motion. Even if the pace was slower, Gaby would hit in most sets backhand down the line winners, volley winners, some forehand winners, and Caro isn't faster than Steffi or Arantxa.
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:10:17 GMT -5
Meanwhile Monfils has begun with a DOUBLE BREAK against Ferrer.
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:12:43 GMT -5
Wozniackis pushing is really remarkable, because as you said, nowadays, even the low power players hit winners, Woz often goes sets with less than 2 winners. I read a few days ago some Woz fan saying that Woz is much better than prime Sabatini because in those times players played in slow motion. Even if the pace was slower, Gaby would hit in most sets backhand down the line winners, volley winners, some forehand winners, and Caro isn't faster than Steffi or Arantxa. I like Woz, but you are right, her game is too passive. I'm sure she could win an arm-wrestle with the petite Dulko but it's Dulko with the more aggressive forehand. |
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Post by Traveling Man on May 29, 2011 12:16:44 GMT -5
CAKE breaks to love to win the opening set 7-5. The commentators expecting Dulko to retire. She's injured and struggling.
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:19:41 GMT -5
Purple is a nice color on Monfils.
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Post by Bruguera's heavy balls on May 29, 2011 12:21:52 GMT -5
Oh, well, she gave as a nice set
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Post by Traveling Man on May 29, 2011 12:21:59 GMT -5
Dulko retires injured.  |
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:23:05 GMT -5
Bartoli has got to be one of the slowest players in the top 20, right? And that would be related to her somewhat doughy appearance?
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Post by Bruguera's heavy balls on May 29, 2011 12:23:54 GMT -5
and the two handed forehand does not help her, less reach.
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Post by Bruguera's heavy balls on May 29, 2011 12:24:53 GMT -5
Gise had 19 winners and 7 unforced errors
Bartoli 20 and 9 if I read correctly
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Post by Traveling Man on May 29, 2011 12:25:07 GMT -5
“When you play less than 50 percent of your potential, it’s very tough to win the fourth round of a grand slam,” Zvonareva, Wimbledon and U.S. Open runner-up last year, told reporters.
“It’s just that she played a little bit more aggressive. That’s why I was playing a little bit too passive. It’s not acceptable at this stage of the grand slam.”
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Post by The Chloe on May 29, 2011 12:25:19 GMT -5
Bartoli has got to be one of the slowest players in the top 20, right? And that would be related to her somewhat doughy appearance? That's sexist! But no, seriously, yes. I will never understand fat tennis players. |
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:26:20 GMT -5
Gise had 19 winners and 7 unforced errors Bartoli 20 and 9 if I read correctly Stats are a bit burnished by the fact that neither player could run today. |
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Post by The Chloe on May 29, 2011 12:26:35 GMT -5
And by fat tennis players, I obviously mean Kirilenko.
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Post by Grarliner on May 29, 2011 12:26:51 GMT -5
Bartoli has got to be one of the slowest players in the top 20, right? And that would be related to her somewhat doughy appearance? That's sexist! But no, seriously, yes. I will never understand fat tennis players. Did you know that Mardy Fish lost 30 lbs.? |
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Post by Bruguera's heavy balls on May 29, 2011 12:28:48 GMT -5
Cake could not run cuz she is cake Yes, Mardy lost lots of weight img.ly/4k8l |
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Post by Wagasi on May 29, 2011 12:28:59 GMT -5
“When you play less than 50 percent of your potential, it’s very tough to win the fourth round of a grand slam,” Zvonareva, Wimbledon and U.S. Open runner-up last year, told reporters. “It’s just that she played a little bit more aggressive. That’s why I was playing a little bit too passive. It’s not acceptable at this stage of the grand slam.” Bepa must be taking a correspondence course at the Williams-school-of-%-excuses. |
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Post by Traveling Man on May 29, 2011 12:29:47 GMT -5
and the two handed forehand does not help her, less reach. Seles was chunky and had two hands on both sides and she had better opposition than the girls on Tour today. While those weaknesses are there, I think she doesn't handle awkward heights and bounces too well - that's probably due to just not being that good a tennis player. With Bartoli, she's just "dumb" for lack of a better word - it helps when she's up in a big match since she won't overthink it and choke. But I don't recall ever seeing her adjust tactics or do something different in a match. How good is she at picking up her opponents' weaknesses and adjusting accordingly? |
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Post by Traveling Man on May 29, 2011 12:31:35 GMT -5
“When you play less than 50 percent of your potential, it’s very tough to win the fourth round of a grand slam,” Zvonareva, Wimbledon and U.S. Open runner-up last year, told reporters. “It’s just that she played a little bit more aggressive. That’s why I was playing a little bit too passive. It’s not acceptable at this stage of the grand slam.” Bepa must be taking a correspondence course at the Williams-school-of-%-excuses. “Everyone is talking that we don’t really have a leader right now in women’s tennis. I don’t really care.” - A. Pavlyuchenkova I'm guessing she was coached by Barbara Schett.Though not nearly as good as Babs in 2001.  |
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