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Post by Lady on Jan 26, 2012 4:55:55 GMT -5
Please, if possible, a little bit more discription of whats going on? Im sitting in a room full of people, listening to sort of lecture and im just falling asleep, literally! Need a distraction. So I take it Fed won 1st set?
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:06:17 GMT -5
Yup - God mode until 4-1, then Rafa started making him rally a bit more and Fed started missing. Good serving until the TB which Federer juuuuust took 7-5. B2B breaks to love at the start of the second, Fed had a BP in the last game but shanked three shots in a row and HOLY FUCK THAT NADAL GET!!!!!!! Three BPs for Rafa now
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:07:30 GMT -5
Saves one with a serve...Rafa bossing the second BP but misses putaway BH...
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:08:17 GMT -5
Amazing BH pass where you'd swear there was no room and Rafa breaks.
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Post by Paean on Jan 26, 2012 5:16:21 GMT -5
What are those fireworks all about?
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Post by Grarliner on Jan 26, 2012 5:17:30 GMT -5
Roger's problems in this match are neatly summarized by the last three points of the last game. 15-30 opening and ... three backhand return of serve errors. At least make Nadal hit a ball or two once in a while.
I agree with Lex. This match seems to be decisively turning towards Rafa. He has played some superb defensive points against Fed. He really shouldn't be up a break but he played out of his mind in that game to do it.
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Post by Grarliner on Jan 26, 2012 5:18:08 GMT -5
What are those fireworks all about? I thought you were from Australia? They are celebrating Newt Gingrich's lead in the Republican primaries.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:18:41 GMT -5
Fed missing that BP and getting immediately broken definitely seemed like The Turning Point.
Even if there are more twists and turns to come and he wins another set.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:19:52 GMT -5
These fireworks, every fucking year. Australia you fail. Give the Slam to China.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:22:59 GMT -5
LOL @ that FH volley. Oh Fed.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:24:47 GMT -5
Oh dear. Lame FH halfway up net and Rafa breaks to love. From 7-6, *1-0 up, Roger won one game to Rafa's six
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:32:27 GMT -5
Oh my god two consecutive Fed DFs and he's already down 0-40 in the third...
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Post by Paean on Jan 26, 2012 5:36:21 GMT -5
What are those fireworks all about? I thought you were from Australia? They are celebrating Newt Gingrich's lead in the Republican primaries. Nope, I'm a European. And as such have no idea who Gingrich is and thus can't tell whether the fireworks were justified or not.
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Post by Grarliner on Jan 26, 2012 5:37:17 GMT -5
Oh, they are.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:37:55 GMT -5
Somehow managed to get out of that game. My stream is being a cunt
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Post by Grarliner on Jan 26, 2012 5:39:54 GMT -5
I'm amazed Fed rallied there.
I don't get why I always pick the loser in these matches. I preferred Agassi to Sampras and Fed to Rafa. And now I prefer Nadal to Djokovic.
Why does Fed try to run around the serve to his backhand? It rarely works. More often he just gets caught out. It would be better for him to just accept that he needs to hit a backhand and if for some reason Rafa hits to his forehand at least he'll be in position.
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Post by Grarliner on Jan 26, 2012 5:42:33 GMT -5
I find myself also thinking about their two different styles and mindsets. Rafa never, ever surrenders a point without maximum effort. Roger's intensity and focus drop when he gets behind in games. He will give points away. Against lesser players, perhaps that does not matter. Against Nadal, I think it does.
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Post by Grarliner on Jan 26, 2012 5:52:08 GMT -5
Nadal actually gifted Fed at 40-30 there. That's uncommon.
Fed is serving at 59% in the third which I am surprised about. I thought it was worse. Nadal is beginning to make him pay on the second serve, though, and he wasn't doing that in set one.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 5:54:16 GMT -5
Does anyone have a link to a decent stream? Mine is unwatchable now. FUCKING HATE TECHNOLOGY
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 6:09:04 GMT -5
Fed broke, then tossed in a DF in the next game and - again - was broken right back. This set probably going Rafa's way...
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 6:26:16 GMT -5
Federror has shown up for this TB then.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 6:31:37 GMT -5
Fed came back from 1-6 to 5-6 and then Rafa just did his classic serve out wide then big FH, end.
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Post by Grarliner on Jan 26, 2012 6:36:02 GMT -5
That set was totally fucked, as is this entire match. There's no momentum to these matches, just an inevitability.
I will give PMac this much - I think he's accurate when he points out the difficulty Roger has when he needs to execute under pressure. It's tough to play that offensive style when the chips are down. Conversely, the clarity and simplicity of Rafa's strategy makes life easier for him. When he gets tight, he seeks Fed-errors from the backhand. It's a winning play.
I don't see any way for Roger to win this match at this point. If he had won set three, maybe. Not now.
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Post by Lady on Jan 26, 2012 6:37:02 GMT -5
that sounds great considering how badly roger is playing by the sounds of it, its dissapointing that rafa barely won it.
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Post by Lady on Jan 26, 2012 6:37:27 GMT -5
that sounds great considering how badly roger is playing by the sounds of it, its dissapointing that rafa barely won it.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 6:43:07 GMT -5
Roger isn't playing that badly, he's serving decently and putting points together enough to keep it close, but as Grarliner said there's an inevitability about the whole thing, and he's missing BADLY at crucial times.
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 6:45:32 GMT -5
I do wonder what would happen if Federer and Nadal played best-of-five indoors.
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Post by Grarliner on Jan 26, 2012 6:45:36 GMT -5
He isn't playing badly, playing Rafa means he can't play as well as he can against everyone else.
It's the same story as always. Roger has hit some tremendous shots and he continues to do so. But sooner or later, Nadal gets enough balls back to draw some bad errors. Nadal's game is basically made for beating Federer. I know not by design, but that has been the result. You could not create a player better suited to defeat Federer.
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Post by Lady on Jan 26, 2012 6:46:21 GMT -5
my phone is totally fucking up, im sorry for my spelling! Thank you for the update!
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Post by lexpretend on Jan 26, 2012 6:51:00 GMT -5
The Big Four matches almost always play out in the same way, it feels like we've been watching the same matches for half a decade now. We continue to watch because they're so talented that there's a lot of good tennis in that, and also for the rare incremental shift to tilt the rivalries like Djokovic made last year.
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