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Post by DBBN on Aug 5, 2012 13:44:54 GMT -5
Like OMG. Federer fans arguing now that Federer only cares about the Slams and the Olympics don't mean shit. Lulz. Naturally. Worst SEATP fan group by far.
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Post by janie on Aug 5, 2012 14:13:16 GMT -5
Women's vault final: world's only sport where you can literally fall on your butt and still pick up a silver medal. Though possibly that has happened in figure skating, too. That was a shocker, but she landed her first vault fine, which is what I assume counted. No, unfortunately for her, both vaults count these days. It's been that way for a while, I think. I'm sorry about the spoiler, Hurley. I was not keeping my threads straight. Hackie would have banned me for posting in the wrong thread.
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Post by janie on Aug 5, 2012 14:14:37 GMT -5
By the way, even though I'm still posting about this in the wrong thread, I think it's good that both vaults count. What other sport do you get a do-over? That was silly when they did it that way.
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Post by Edna Krabappel on Aug 5, 2012 14:16:56 GMT -5
There need to be more severe penalties for falling. It's ridiculous that she almost won with a fall. I don't care how good the first vault was, she fell on the second.
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Post by Traveling Man on Aug 5, 2012 14:21:11 GMT -5
Like OMG. Federer fans arguing now that Federer only cares about the Slams and the Olympics don't mean shit. Lulz. Naturally. Worst SEATP fan group by far. OMG. How does one even respond to this crap? "Ali seriously? It's the experience of watching Federer on court - it's an absolute privilege! It's not simply about a win or loss when you talk about RF Tennis - there's much more and that's what makes him a legend! It's the clinical mastery of what he displays every time hence my frustration when he decides not to take a match seriously such as this! Regardless of his losses to-date, not a single player in my opinion can match his form and movement on court. Absolutely delightful - the rest is all conversation!" "And frankly, the fact that Andy was so thrilled with his win (relative to when he loses) only goes on to prove that he isn't used to winning and when he's fortunate enough to win, he forgets he might lose again! To me it seems Andy's ignorance is 2nd only to his arrogrance - really!" I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Post by lexpretend on Aug 5, 2012 14:21:10 GMT -5
The first wasn't even perfect, she landed out of bounds.
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Post by The Chloe on Aug 5, 2012 14:43:48 GMT -5
Post some photos of him not taking the Olympics seriously with Wawrinka 4 years ago.
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Post by Traveling Man on Aug 5, 2012 14:52:53 GMT -5
Haha! That's a good idea.
Also, it's scary how many more people in the world have the TF mentality - or maybe I need to clean up my friend's list.
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Post by Old Hag on Aug 5, 2012 15:03:43 GMT -5
The "Federer is so classy!" stuff is really tiring to me. I don't know the guy, and none of you do either. It's not nearly as bad as Kim, but blah.
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Post by DBBN on Aug 5, 2012 15:37:25 GMT -5
That was a shocker, but she landed her first vault fine, which is what I assume counted. No, unfortunately for her, both vaults count these days. It's been that way for a while, I think. I'm sorry about the spoiler, Hurley. I was not keeping my threads straight. Hackie would have banned me for posting in the wrong thread. LOL. She totally would have. I was just razzing you. I give up on trying to avoid spoilers, and now that swimming's over I don't really care about anything I know beforehand, except maybe the men's gymnastics event finals, and even that, meh.
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Post by DBBN on Aug 5, 2012 15:38:42 GMT -5
Naturally. Worst SEATP fan group by far. OMG. How does one even respond to this crap? "Ali seriously? It's the experience of watching Federer on court - it's an absolute privilege! It's not simply about a win or loss when you talk about RF Tennis - there's much more and that's what makes him a legend! It's the clinical mastery of what he displays every time hence my frustration when he decides not to take a match seriously such as this! Regardless of his losses to-date, not a single player in my opinion can match his form and movement on court. Absolutely delightful - the rest is all conversation!" "And frankly, the fact that Andy was so thrilled with his win (relative to when he loses) only goes on to prove that he isn't used to winning and when he's fortunate enough to win, he forgets he might lose again! To me it seems Andy's ignorance is 2nd only to his arrogrance - really!" I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Laugh. What crazy person is this anyway? Post some photos of him not taking the Olympics seriously with Wawrinka 4 years ago. SERIOUSLY. They are such assholes.
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Post by DBBN on Aug 5, 2012 15:40:05 GMT -5
In fact they talk about that doubles gold medal as a seriously huge achievement, which, yes, it's an Olympic gold. But either way they're fucked: (1) it's just doubles OR (2) not winning the singles gold is a huge gap.
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Post by Traveling Man on Aug 5, 2012 15:55:13 GMT -5
Yes, when I responded with logic I got a "I give up, you win!1111~" response. Amateurs.
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Post by GoDom on Aug 5, 2012 16:01:46 GMT -5
Most great champions have not won everything. It doesn't really matter for Federer. He seemed genuinely happy with Silver, I guess he felt that Gold was out of his reach here.
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Post by DBBN on Aug 5, 2012 16:02:52 GMT -5
Yes, when I responded with logic I got a "I give up, you win!1111~" response. Amateurs. LOL, they need to join more message boards. #nevergiveup #neversurrender
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Post by Grarliner on Aug 5, 2012 16:30:17 GMT -5
I wanted Nadal to have something over him. Singles gold medal is a great trump card. Not really. Not when he has a singles silver and a gold in doubles.
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Post by DBBN on Aug 5, 2012 16:32:45 GMT -5
DNOC.
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Post by Grarliner on Aug 5, 2012 16:40:18 GMT -5
Most great champions have not won everything. It doesn't really matter for Federer. He seemed genuinely happy with Silver, I guess he felt that Gold was out of his reach here. With the type of match he played, it definitely was. Since he became a top player, only the French Open loss in 2008 stands out as a more lopsided loss than this. I'm not even entirely sure how many of his losses at the beginning of his career were as one-sided as today's match. Probably not many! It would have been great for him to grab the gold here and don't believe anyone who says he didn't want it, obviously. But as you say, GoDom, I'm sure he wouldn't trade this for the Wimbledon title he won last month. No way. I still think the long SF had to play a role here. Roger's turning 31 in three days. You don't recover as fast over 30. I'm still bullish about Roger's prospects at the US Open. I'd love to see him bag that one and make this is a Connors '82 style comeback. Of course, that is the only way in which I hope he emulates Jimmy Connors.
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Post by Old Hag on Aug 5, 2012 18:26:09 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but I find this talk about Olympic medals silly. It's not close to even the biggest event of the year. Who cares. The exception is when Demented won because Mother Russians are nuts.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Aug 6, 2012 9:08:47 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but I find this talk about Olympic medals silly. It's not close to even the biggest event of the year. Who cares. The exception is when Demented won because Mother Russians are nuts. In terms of gauging the importance of the games, I think it depends on the player/country. Some might not see it as one of the biggest events, but other might see it as one of the most important events of their career. See your example of Dementieva. A lot of the US players take it very seriously, and then look at China. Li took it really seriously in Beijing. She really, really wanted gold, to the point that once she lost she basically tanked the bronze medal match because she openly said it didn't matter anymore.
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Post by lexpretend on Aug 6, 2012 9:26:31 GMT -5
I've said this elsewhere, but the argument for Olympic tennis medals gaining significance is that there are so many more of those players now. Every top player was here and taking it seriously, apart from Rafa and Cake, who were both openly devastated at missing it. That's partly down to the globalisation of tennis, particularly countries that have more of an Olympic tradition than a tennis one (and it helps that the Williamses care, too).
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Post by Old Hag on Aug 6, 2012 22:36:22 GMT -5
My main reaction was to McEnroe saying the Olympics should be on par with the slams 100 times this weekend. The top players care, but it's still second to the US Open, and I think it's more novelty for most along with significant points at stake, so why not. And that's enough to be a killer for me. Professional tennis just doesn't feel like belongs in the Olympics at all, imo.
We'll see how well 2016 does on Rio clay compared to Bimbledon.
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Post by lexpretend on Aug 7, 2012 2:06:16 GMT -5
On a par with the Slams is going a bit far - it's different, not necessarily inferior, but it's not on a par - but if the USO was just straight-up the bigger prize, wouldn't we see more players taking advantage of the Olympics fucking up the schedule to get over to the US hard court swing earlier? This probably applied to Athens and Beijing more, Athens was held so close to the USO that you knew any Olympic medallists would be actively harming their USO chances.
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