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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:02:32 GMT -5
I'm getting worried about Yuri Moneypants winning the whole thing... but whenever that happens, Queen Justine improves 10000%. No way she beats Justine, Serena, Venus in succession. She could beat Justine, but she needs someone to take out Serena for her, like Vaidisova or Jankovic, and Venus, like Ivanovic. Tsonga fights! 3rd set. Remember when Monfils was supposed to be good? lol. Glad it's clear who the two good ones are from France. And Tsonga might be establishing himself as THE best. Kostanic > Davenport > Vesnina > Dementieva Sad world.
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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:04:49 GMT -5
I wonder what Elena thinks when she gets her ass whipped like that. Probably something along the lines of "Whateva!!" because else she would do something to prevent it from happening every few weeks. The sad part is she actually works and trains extremely hard. I think she lives and breathes tennis. Too bad she's not better.
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Post by DBBN on Jan 20, 2008 0:05:50 GMT -5
Oh, Justine. You are just the worst interview ever. I don't care.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jan 20, 2008 0:05:56 GMT -5
I doubt I'll ever see another ball striker like Leach in my day. And she has the same amount of slams as freakin' Caprifati... ... No need to rant on her for the 123423th time here. I also rank Lindsay as #1 ball striker ever. I don't think Lindsay, Mary, Monica will ever be matched. And the fact that Lindsay has the same number of Slams as Capriati just shows how tennis, like all sports, comes down to attitude and mentality as much as technique, talent, skill. I know Lindsay regrets not getting fitter earlier in her career when she was a teen. Those weak mid-90s were OPEN for her to dominate with Graf and before the Williams showed up. But better late than never. And her longevity is beginning to rival Agassi's. Forget the 90s. Look at the 2000s. There's at least a half dozen slams Lindsay "coulda, woulda, shoulda" won, but she didn't. And that's all because of attitude and lack of belief. And subsequently choking. I don't care what anyone says. Wimbledon '05 was a choke on her part, twice. First in the second set, where she thought hitting fun shots up the center of the court was good enough to get through Pee, and stopped moving for anything for two games. Then serving to consolidate the break in the third, she double faults, and gags on multiple 0-30 and 15-30 Pee service games. It still blows.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jan 20, 2008 0:09:17 GMT -5
Awwww, Jagger is so cute. Daniela and Lindsay won very easily today. No idea what their draw looks like, but they have to win. LD has lost in like 4 doubles finals here and needs this one to complete the Dubs Slam, she's fucking due. Lindsay hasn't won a major in singles or doubles since January 2000.
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Post by GoDom on Jan 20, 2008 0:12:17 GMT -5
Here's one funny bit about the Wimby final that came to my mind recently.
Lindsay, serving for the match at 6-4 6-5. Hadn't we seen that before? Right! 1999. Lindsay, serving for the match at 6-4 6-5 against Graf. She did it without trouble.
It must have been a mental block with the Williamses. Maybe Lindsay is racist or something.
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Post by sasha on Jan 20, 2008 0:12:25 GMT -5
I'm glad the pissed off Andrew is back.
I definitely wouldn't count out Monfils yet. Get a coach who can get him to stop being a dumber version of Roddick, and you got something.
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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:16:02 GMT -5
I also rank Lindsay as #1 ball striker ever. I don't think Lindsay, Mary, Monica will ever be matched. And the fact that Lindsay has the same number of Slams as Capriati just shows how tennis, like all sports, comes down to attitude and mentality as much as technique, talent, skill. I know Lindsay regrets not getting fitter earlier in her career when she was a teen. Those weak mid-90s were OPEN for her to dominate with Graf and before the Williams showed up. But better late than never. And her longevity is beginning to rival Agassi's. Forget the 90s. Look at the 2000s. There's at least a half dozen slams Lindsay "coulda, woulda, shoulda" won, but she didn't. And that's all because of attitude and lack of belief. And subsequently choking. I don't care what anyone says. Wimbledon '05 was a choke on her part, twice. First in the second set, where she thought hitting fun shots up the center of the court was good enough to get through Pee, and stopped moving for anything for two games. Then serving to consolidate the break in the third, she double faults, and gags on multiple 0-30 and 15-30 Pee service games. It still blows. Of course the 2000s were open as well. But if Davenport had been more of a factor in the 90's, the course of the sport would have been different. Hingis may not have won any Slam. Wimbledon 2005 absolutely was a choke. She couldn't get her first serves in at 6-4, 6*-5, and I thought she had it because she had won by the same scoreline against graf 6 years earlier. And the biggest choke in the 3rd was when she was up 4*-2, 40-15. 5-2 might have been enough of a lead for even her to close out. Then we can't forget the two 15-30s Venus came out of later. Having said all that, Davenport (and the rest of the tour) needed the emergence of the Williams to take fitness to the next level. Like, "Oh yeah, I guess I should train harder." In the mid-90s, it's not like Davenport was getting inspiration from Seles or Martinez or others to get super fit. And now Serena says she looks up to Lindsay as a role model and is inspired by her fitness so soon after giving birth. Things go in circles.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jan 20, 2008 0:18:25 GMT -5
Here's one funny bit about the Wimby final that came to my mind recently. Lindsay, serving for the match at 6-4 6-5. Hadn't we seen that before? Right! 1999. Lindsay, serving for the match at 6-4 6-5 against Graf. She did it without trouble. It must have been a mental block with the Williamses. Maybe Lindsay is racist or something. It's always been mental with her, though. And yeah, she had the unwarranted "respect" for them from 2001 on... except for like one year, when she managed to beat Serena 1 and 3. Where's that game, in like, a slam?
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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:19:09 GMT -5
I'm so torn in this Russian match. I want Youzhny to win, but I'm also confident that Davydenko will destroy the bottom half including Nadal and make his first GS final - which he should have done in Paris '05 when he faced CHEATER.
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Post by Denise49IQ on Jan 20, 2008 0:20:07 GMT -5
I also rank Lindsay as #1 ball striker ever. I don't think Lindsay, Mary, Monica will ever be matched. And the fact that Lindsay has the same number of Slams as Capriati just shows how tennis, like all sports, comes down to attitude and mentality as much as technique, talent, skill. I know Lindsay regrets not getting fitter earlier in her career when she was a teen. Those weak mid-90s were OPEN for her to dominate with Graf and before the Williams showed up. But better late than never. And her longevity is beginning to rival Agassi's. Forget the 90s. Look at the 2000s. There's at least a half dozen slams Lindsay "coulda, woulda, shoulda" won, but she didn't. And that's all because of attitude and lack of belief. And subsequently choking. I don't care what anyone says. Wimbledon '05 was a choke on her part, twice. First in the second set, where she thought hitting fun shots up the center of the court was good enough to get through Pee, and stopped moving for anything for two games. Then serving to consolidate the break in the third, she double faults, and gags on multiple 0-30 and 15-30 Pee service games. It still blows. Must we all be reminded of this again? Ugh. Still, it's all oh so true. 2 and LOVE?! LOVE? That is really, really awful. Thanks for reminding me just how much you fucking blow, Elena.
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Post by Denise49IQ on Jan 20, 2008 0:21:25 GMT -5
Here's one funny bit about the Wimby final that came to my mind recently. Lindsay, serving for the match at 6-4 6-5. Hadn't we seen that before? Right! 1999. Lindsay, serving for the match at 6-4 6-5 against Graf. She did it without trouble. It must have been a mental block with the Williamses. Maybe Lindsay is racist or something. It's always been mental with her, though. And yeah, she had the unwarranted "respect" for them from 2001 on... except for like one year, when she managed to beat Serena 1 and 3. Where's that game, in like, a slam? USO 2000 pre-SF. What a match.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jan 20, 2008 0:24:03 GMT -5
Forget the 90s. Look at the 2000s. There's at least a half dozen slams Lindsay "coulda, woulda, shoulda" won, but she didn't. And that's all because of attitude and lack of belief. And subsequently choking. I don't care what anyone says. Wimbledon '05 was a choke on her part, twice. First in the second set, where she thought hitting fun shots up the center of the court was good enough to get through Pee, and stopped moving for anything for two games. Then serving to consolidate the break in the third, she double faults, and gags on multiple 0-30 and 15-30 Pee service games. It still blows. Having said all that, Davenport (and the rest of the tour) needed the emergence of the Williams to take fitness to the next level. Like, "Oh yeah, I guess I should train harder." In the mid-90s, it's not like Davenport was getting inspiration from Seles or Martinez or others to get super fit. And now Serena says she looks up to Lindsay as a role model and is inspired by her fitness so soon after giving birth. Things go in circles. Their emergence wasn't the issue. Great, it pushed everyone in the fitness department. But the issue was that in the 2000s, Lindsay was probably the only player who could consistently beat them, and she flaked out every time. And I think those two were starting to check out of the sport by the middle of the decade. Lindsay gave them that "resurgence" they both needed. Look at the rest of the sistahs results that year. You take away their respective slam titles, and they just sucked. Oh, and don't forget about "the new wave of tennis" that Lindsay happily ushered in back at Wimbledon 2004.
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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:24:23 GMT -5
It's always been mental with her, though. And yeah, she had the unwarranted "respect" for them from 2001 on... except for like one year, when she managed to beat Serena 1 and 3. Where's that game, in like, a slam? USO 2000 pre-SF. What a match. I remember that. Lindsay has always been at her cockiest in New York. I think she really think she thought she would win that year, as well as in 2005.
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Post by sasha on Jan 20, 2008 0:25:16 GMT -5
Hey, how about Wimbledon '04. It was hilarious! Lindsay was just so gay and joyous losing that match when we're clearly the best player in the world!
And then we win every match in SoCal 6-1 6-0 before injures and suck at US Open. Oh, and 2005 Aussie Open too. Thanks, Lindsay.
I can really see Kolya making the final, as well. I think he's playing better than Nadal currently.
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Post by DBBN on Jan 20, 2008 0:26:56 GMT -5
Misha will win 6-0 6-0 6-0.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jan 20, 2008 0:26:58 GMT -5
USO 2000 pre-SF. What a match. I remember that. Lindsay has always been at her cockiest in New York. I think she really think she thought she would win that year, as well as in 2005. 2004. 2005 was where she and Elena put on a show which shamed the WTA.
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Jan 20, 2008 0:28:05 GMT -5
Hey, how about Wimbledon '04. It was hilarious! Lindsay was just so gay and joyous losing that match when we're clearly the best player in the world! And then we win every match in SoCal 6-1 6-0 before injures and suck at US Open. Oh, and 2005 Aussie Open too. Thanks, Lindsay. Yes. Remember the laughter in the third set from LL at Wimbly? Good stuff.
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Post by DBBN on Jan 20, 2008 0:28:33 GMT -5
I want to know who the people are who are watching J.Moore [AUS] G.Jones [AUS] vs. R.Stubbs [AUS] T.Perry [AUS] on SHOW COURT TWO.
There are so many suicide bombers out there and they're never where they're really needed.
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Post by sasha on Jan 20, 2008 0:28:43 GMT -5
Misha will win 6-0 6-0 6-0. He did the equivalent by beating Ivo 2, 4 and 2. That Lindsay-Bovina '04 USO match was a good one. Hey, why couldn't you suck there you pathetic choker.
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Post by Denise49IQ on Jan 20, 2008 0:31:21 GMT -5
Aaah, "the new wave of tennis".
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Post by sasha on Jan 20, 2008 0:33:22 GMT -5
Kolya wins a game. K, I really can't watch this match. Damn you, Australia.
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Post by DBBN on Jan 20, 2008 0:41:54 GMT -5
Oh, thank God we can get through the rest of this tournament with the roof closed. Phew.
Indoor Slam! TAUZITA OUT OF RETIREMENT!~
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Post by Denise49IQ on Jan 20, 2008 0:47:10 GMT -5
Omg.
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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:47:28 GMT -5
Having said all that, Davenport (and the rest of the tour) needed the emergence of the Williams to take fitness to the next level. Like, "Oh yeah, I guess I should train harder." In the mid-90s, it's not like Davenport was getting inspiration from Seles or Martinez or others to get super fit. And now Serena says she looks up to Lindsay as a role model and is inspired by her fitness so soon after giving birth. Things go in circles. Their emergence wasn't the issue. Great, it pushed everyone in the fitness department. But the issue was that in the 2000s, Lindsay was probably the only player who could consistently beat them, and she flaked out every time. And I think those two were starting to check out of the sport by the middle of the decade. Lindsay gave them that "resurgence" they both needed. Look at the rest of the sistahs results that year. You take away their respective slam titles, and they just sucked. Oh, and don't forget about "the new wave of tennis" that Lindsay happily ushered in back at Wimbledon 2004. I agree. All I'm saying is that, if she 90's had gone differently, the 2000's would have been different as well... which is a duh statement to make. Had she won more of the Slams that were totally up for grabs in the 90s, she might have been mentally tougher and had more an aura to benefit her when facing the intense Venus and Serena. But their emergence and the question of fitness was definitely a big issue for her mentally. Lindsay was always intimidated by their combination of power and athleticism because she lacked the mobility; thus, all of her matches vs. them in 2001-2003 were lost before the match because she never believed she could win. She needed Venus making about 700 forehand errors in the final of 2004 Stanford to believe again, and it was that one match that signalled her return to ELITE status and she started to contend at the Slams. LD was always a baby-stepping, gradual improver. In 2002, she couldn't take a set off a Williams and couldn't win a final. In 2003 at Tokyo, she finally won a final again. In 2003 at Wimbledon, she finally took a set off a Williams again. In 2004, she finally beat a Williams again (first time since 2000). In 2005 Melbourne, she finally won a GS semifinal again and won a set in a GS final. In 2005 Wimbledon, she finally reached championship point at a Slam again. I think maybe with just one more chance on a big stage, she could have taken that next little step, and won her 4th Major. But that's because I'm a fan, and I always believed in her deep down, and still do! And I still think that Lindsay was convinced she would win the USO '05 to make up for the Wimbledon disappointment. But she played like crap versus Dementieva, and probably would have lost to red hot Pierce anyway. I also think Lindsay's success post-knee surgery does go back to the emergence of the Williams and their new standard of fitness. When she came back in the summer of 2002, she was so incredibly lean. She knew she couldn't be lazy and neglect her fitness with the Williams dominating. And then she stepped it up again in 2004. For much of 2004 and 2005, Davenport was a significantly better player than she was when she was a reigning Slam champ, and part of that was definitely due to the influence of Venus and Serena. Also, another blown shot not talked about enough with Lindsay is '99 AO. She was basically two games from that championship. ---- Tsonga into first GS QF! Great upset. Fucking ESPN2 refuses to show Youzhny. I hate them.
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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:50:16 GMT -5
I remember that. Lindsay has always been at her cockiest in New York. I think she really think she thought she would win that year, as well as in 2005. 2004. 2005 was where she and Elena put on a show which shamed the WTA. No, I know. I think she thought she would win in 2005. I remember getting that feeling when I read a (poorly written ) article on her long career in the USO program. She talked about the disappointment of losing the epic to Venus, but being happy being a part of it... yeah, right. I think she tried to ignore the heart ache and tried to convince herself that she would win in New York. She felt she was due, at least that was the impression I got from her article. But she just was so inconsistent in that tournament.
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Post by DBBN on Jan 20, 2008 0:53:47 GMT -5
Remember when Hackie wrote Wertheim an email asking why he never gave Jarkko any love, and Wertheim responded "He's good, but talk to me when he's made a Grand Slam quarterfinal"? And now he's about to make his SECOND? Hilarious! I think it might be his third? I recall him losing one at the USO to Hewitt in an ugly 5-setter, and getting crushed by Nadal at Wimbledon. Unless the latter was a R16. You are right. I did not remember that Wimbledon performance. You are wrong. Nieminen has great groundies which are definite weapons. Underrated by all. Three Slam QFs prove everyone wrong.
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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:53:57 GMT -5
Misha choking. Davydenko doesn't like losing sets prior to the QF. Youzhny being polite and letting this set and match go.
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Post by Self-Love, Baby! on Jan 20, 2008 0:57:33 GMT -5
I think it might be his third? I recall him losing one at the USO to Hewitt in an ugly 5-setter, and getting crushed by Nadal at Wimbledon. Unless the latter was a R16. You are right. I did not remember that Wimbledon performance. You are wrong. Nieminen has great groundies which are definite weapons. Underrated by all. Three Slam QFs prove everyone wrong. Solid groundstrokes, but I wouldn't characterize them as great. He gets the job done. He plays percentages, and he knows how to do that on all surfaces. Don't get me wrong, reaching 3 GS QFs on 3 different surfaces when you've never been Top 10 is a tremendous achievement, and it will go unnoticed. I personally refuse to care because his game doesn't generate enough excitement. He doesn't generate enough anything but spin. I knew it. ESPN2 fixates on highlights/last 36 hours and ignores live tennis between cute Commies. They love FLUFF. ESPN2 should change it's nickname from "The Grand Slam Network" to "The Grand Fluff Network."
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Post by DBBN on Jan 20, 2008 1:00:03 GMT -5
Oh MISHA.
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