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Day 10.
Sept 5, 2007 21:24:34 GMT -5
Post by DBBN on Sept 5, 2007 21:24:34 GMT -5
The idiot covering the match kept screwing up and calling her Serena Williams during the match. And now, we're watching "The Men in Black" who "look good on court and play well on it too". Seriously. Who writes this shit? Ugh! Move!
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Day 10.
Sept 5, 2007 21:25:17 GMT -5
Post by Traveling Man on Sept 5, 2007 21:25:17 GMT -5
Someone always wins and someone always loses. That someone who always loses (when it really matters, at least) is Jelena. But, maybe I shouldn't complain because only a couple of years ago I never thought she'd get to those matches that matter. Anyway, that is over now. Allez Justine. She can do everything Jelena can do, only better. I don't see why she'd lose the next match. However, I'm most likely not going to watch it. That is true to an extent, but hey, atleast she's getting this far and not having her ass handed to her [unlike a fellow Serbian player]. Henin-Venus won't be fun. I don't want either one to win. Regardless of what happens, wta world will crash at the end of the match.
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Day 10.
Sept 5, 2007 21:47:15 GMT -5
Post by Wagasi on Sept 5, 2007 21:47:15 GMT -5
um you have to factor in the whole "oh I might beat Venus at a slam for the first time" jitters for Justine and give an allowance of like 5 straight games lost. I don't think she can do that AND win the match.
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Day 10.
Sept 5, 2007 23:57:12 GMT -5
Post by sasha on Sept 5, 2007 23:57:12 GMT -5
I'm kind of glad that Jelena lost. She has work to do on her game. The serve, obviously. And her focus. While you guys may enjoy her having fun... fuck the heck is she thinking about in the final games.
And Justine beating Venus would be much more sweet. 1 of the 2 big hurdles left for her. If Justine plays like she has all week, she'll win... but, yeah, whatever.
Roger beats Andrew in straights, again. With Andrew serving about as well as he possibly could. It has to be a discouraging loss... by now he must realize he'll never beat Fed in any match that matters. Also, ranking wise, Andrew is dead. Kolya has a big lead for #4... which means Andy is stuck with a 75% chance of Fed/Nadal/Nole in the QF of slams.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 1:35:38 GMT -5
Post by lexpretend on Sept 6, 2007 1:35:38 GMT -5
I sometimes forget how much more tolerable Venus is than her little shitter. But, again, this is after a win. really? I prefer Ree's WYSWYG cuntiness. You always know what you'll get with her because she always thinks she's the best ever and so it's always her fault that she lost. It's endearing. FVW is the idiot who'll hit 1838 UEs and announce to the world that she'd never heard of her opponent before and thought she played well and just needed to play 12.203384% better to have won, all the while preening like she fucking won the Nobel prize in Chemistry. Nah, when TFVW is rude she sometimes gets away with it in the guise of ditziness. Serena is just rude. Also, I tend to like Venus's dresses, whereas the Aneres line seems to be mostly inspired by vomit. Tough loss for Jelena I still feel her schedule from earlier this year has done her in - her serve was never that great but it's noticeably softer and her groundstrokes noticeably shorter these days, and she complained of tiredness in her presser. It's a (pleasant) surprise that she hasn't injured herself but really, Jelena, next year schedule like a top 5 player. Beating both Williamses back-to-back would be a tremendous statement from Justine. I think she's going to do it. The H2H might make Venus over-confident. Men's tournament is great from here on in!
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 1:39:43 GMT -5
Post by sasha on Sept 6, 2007 1:39:43 GMT -5
Tracy said that Jelena said she'll cut down on her schedule next year. We'll see about that, though. She's been a top 20 player for about 3 years now, and only played more...
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 2:15:43 GMT -5
Post by R. Black on Sept 6, 2007 2:15:43 GMT -5
Serena's behavior, endearing?!
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 4:09:12 GMT -5
Post by The Chloe on Sept 6, 2007 4:09:12 GMT -5
Davydenko beating Fed would be awesome. Then Djokovic could win the title! Alas, it's not going to happen.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 6:27:41 GMT -5
Post by janie on Sept 6, 2007 6:27:41 GMT -5
Venus had 55 net approaches, apparently; she is not at all baseline basher any more. And she was GREAT when she got up there. This is what I was hoping would NOT happen, because there is not really a way Justine can fight that.
It took ages for Justine to realize she could beat Kim, but once she realized it, she beat her regularly. Same process regarding Serena, but fortunately this time it happened over the course of just one season. And now she's going to have to go through the same thing with Venus, and she's only at step 1, and step 1 is "I can't beat her". Not to mention, unlike Serena, Venus IS capable of "playing her best", and when she's in that form, she really is better than Justine, imo, except on clay. And I think she will bring her top form because she isn't worried about JH the way she was about JJ, thanks to her lopsided record against her. It won't bother her that the matches were years and years ago; she'll just remember winning all the time, and her head will be happy, not anxious. So she won't be making all the errors she made last night.
So I predict a straight sets win for V this year, but improved results from JH against her next year, as long as they get the chance to play each other enough times.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 9:29:21 GMT -5
Post by Edna Krabappel on Sept 6, 2007 9:29:21 GMT -5
Jeez Janie, you make it sound like Venus won 6-1 6-1 when she was in fact two points from defeat. And I don't think she made all those errors because she was afraid of Jelena, but because she can't stay in rallies that go beyond 10 strokes.
I hope Carlos brainwashes Justine into (correct) thinking that the H2H record between them is from a lifetime ago, when both were different players, and is therefore totally irrelevant to the situation now. And if she needs the next 24 matches to start believing she can beat Venus, she might as well go home now.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 9:43:40 GMT -5
Post by janie on Sept 6, 2007 9:43:40 GMT -5
Jeez Janie, you make it sound like Venus won 6-1 6-1 when she was in fact two points from defeat. And I don't think she made all those errors because she was afraid of Jelena, but because she can't stay in rallies that go beyond 10 strokes. I hope you're right! I hope Carlos brainwashes Justine into (correct) thinking that the H2H record between them is from a lifetime ago, when both were different players, and is therefore totally irrelevant to the situation now. Depends on how deeply Justine has already brainwashed herself that the opposite is true. And if she needs the next 24 matches to start believing she can beat Venus, she might as well go home now. Well, I was thinking 3 or 4 matches rather than 24. But I admit I'm always a pessimist when it comes to Justine's chances at the US Open. She always seems to be tense and out of sorts, or injured, or just low on energy by this time of year, and then she gets these devil draws. But I love reading posts by people who think Justine has a great shot at winning this thing. I keep hoping those posters know something I don't know.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:03:32 GMT -5
Post by corswandt on Sept 6, 2007 10:03:32 GMT -5
But I love reading posts by people who think Justine has a great shot at winning this thing. I keep hoping those posters know something I don't know. Stop it, you're making me cry.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:12:04 GMT -5
Post by DBBN on Sept 6, 2007 10:12:04 GMT -5
Jeez Janie, you make it sound like Venus won 6-1 6-1 when she was in fact two points from defeat. And I don't think she made all those errors because she was afraid of Jelena, but because she can't stay in rallies that go beyond 10 strokes. I hope you're right! Joana is right. This is why Jelena never dropped serve in the third set. The problem was she couldn't BREAK either. And then four bad points in the TB and it was Without the serving, Venus was very beatable last night. The suxxx was wildly evident once the ball got in play. As I said last night, Justine cannot do anything better than Jelena did on her serve last night, when it mattered. Jelena went 6-for-6. But if Venus is unbreakable again, we roll the dice in the TB. And that may very well end badly.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:16:47 GMT -5
Post by janie on Sept 6, 2007 10:16:47 GMT -5
Ha, now there is a parent/coach war going on! Oracene's accusing Carlos of coaching from the stands and says it's "sad" that Justine needs such coaching to win. But she did admit that Serena didn't deserve to win. Then Carlos said the Williams family uses day-long intimidation against the other players, and that without such intimidation, they know they couldn't beat Justine on court! LOL How about a boxing match between Oracene and Carlos! So much for the famed "respect" between them these days.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:18:02 GMT -5
Post by DBBN on Sept 6, 2007 10:18:02 GMT -5
Ha, now there is a parent/coach war going on! Oracene's accusing Carlos of coaching from the stands and says it's "sad" that Justine needs such coaching to win. But she did admit that Serena didn't deserve to win. Then Carlos said the Williams family uses day-long intimidation against the other players, and that without such intimidation, they know they couldn't beat Justine on court! LOL How about a boxing match between Oracene and Carlos! So much for the famed "respect" between them these days. I don't know if I'll watch the rest of the tournament. Actually, I could if I didn't go online ever. Everyone is stupid.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:18:15 GMT -5
Post by janie on Sept 6, 2007 10:18:15 GMT -5
Without the serving, Venus was very beatable last night. Unfortunately, Venus is going to be allowed to serve again in her semifinal.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:19:20 GMT -5
Post by janie on Sept 6, 2007 10:19:20 GMT -5
Ha, now there is a parent/coach war going on! Oracene's accusing Carlos of coaching from the stands and says it's "sad" that Justine needs such coaching to win. But she did admit that Serena didn't deserve to win. Then Carlos said the Williams family uses day-long intimidation against the other players, and that without such intimidation, they know they couldn't beat Justine on court! LOL How about a boxing match between Oracene and Carlos! So much for the famed "respect" between them these days. I don't know if I'll watch the rest of the tournament. Actually, I could if I didn't go online ever. Everyone is stupid.I know.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:21:55 GMT -5
Post by DBBN on Sept 6, 2007 10:21:55 GMT -5
Without the serving, Venus was very beatable last night. Unfortunately, Venus is going to be allowed to serve again in her semifinal. THE NERVE Seriously, I'm not looking at any message boards for a few days. My stomach is in knots already and (A) I have so much more to worry about and (B) this is not important, it's tennis, so I should get over it. A and B will be solved if I ignore message boards for a few days. See you in a while.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:24:33 GMT -5
Post by Edna Krabappel on Sept 6, 2007 10:24:33 GMT -5
All it took for Venus to lose were a couple of not-amazing serves late in the third set. Unfortunately those never came, but I hope they do come tomorrow.
And this Oracene-Carlos feud is seriously pathetic. I honestly think most people would have a totally different perspective on Justine if Carlos didn't have the constant need to open his mouth time and again. He's done amazing things for Justine but he really needs to STFU, during the matches too. Justine doesn't need that. And if she does, she shouldn't. She's already more than good enough.
And Hurley, just stay away from WTAW and everything will be fine. I mean, it's not like you have to know what Denise is saying for example.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 10:27:22 GMT -5
Post by janie on Sept 6, 2007 10:27:22 GMT -5
Bye, Hurley. Great post, Joanna.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 12:50:35 GMT -5
Post by Wagasi on Sept 6, 2007 12:50:35 GMT -5
um guys. Venus was serving Justine like percentages for much of the match. Jelena couldn't have caused that unless Venus started the match already afraid of her return game or something. The serve wasn't that bad against Ivanovic and if she gets back to that level of consistent serving it'll be hell on Justine.
That and Justine does a lot of stuff better than Jelena, but she's not as consistent, if the forehand goes away like it did so often last year, she's toast. Still, the H2H is misleading. Justine took a set off her on hardcourts during that infamous 35 match win streak and that was when she was a pipsqueak.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 13:23:00 GMT -5
Post by sasha on Sept 6, 2007 13:23:00 GMT -5
Davydenko beating Fed would be awesome. Then Djokovic could win the title! Alas, it's not going to happen. With how they're playing thus far, I think Kolya would be the favorite over Nole. And all this WTA drama. Oy.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 13:38:10 GMT -5
Post by janie on Sept 6, 2007 13:38:10 GMT -5
The drama is a huge deal at wtaworld, but that's only because wtaworld (General Messages, anyway) is populated mostly by demented 15 and 16 year olds these days -- the average age of posters there has gone way down since your heyday. I don't know if anyone over 20 is getting worked up about this side crap or not, and I still hope it won't become a big deal in the press. I'll see if they get into it tonight on Around the Horn and PTI; that's a good litmus test. They did bring up Serena's hilariously bad press conference last night, complete with clips, which get funnier every time I see them, especially that final wail of "I can't afford to pay a fine because I keep losing!" <sob><run away>
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 13:59:01 GMT -5
Post by sasha on Sept 6, 2007 13:59:01 GMT -5
If ESPN does mention it, it will only be about Venus being great, and mispronouncing that Hen-in ugly woman.
I still think Justine will win. She's playing lots better this year than she has the past 3 years. Also, she had nagging knee injuries in 2005 and 2006. And 2004, fatigue. Not to make excuses for those performances... but, this year is different.
As for Justine's mentality... we'll see...
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 14:13:32 GMT -5
Post by janie on Sept 6, 2007 14:13:32 GMT -5
Yeah, Justine's mentality and Venus' serve will be the big keys. I wish Venus' mentality would be a factor, too, but I can't even imagine that, dang it.
Do you think Serena will be in the stands?
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 14:17:38 GMT -5
Post by sasha on Sept 6, 2007 14:17:38 GMT -5
Probably. With Oracene and one of the other fat sistahz playing with their blackberry, or other various distractions to keep them from ever watching tennis.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 14:23:16 GMT -5
Post by Traveling Man on Sept 6, 2007 14:23:16 GMT -5
Probably. With Oracene and one of the other fat sistahz playing with their blackberry, or other various distractions to keep them from ever watching tennis. dun yuo be hatin on dem sistahz, triflin heffa..... P.S: What does 'trifling heffa' mean? I keep seeing it pop up on WTA World and I want to decipher it's meaning without coming across as completely ignorant.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 14:33:05 GMT -5
Post by sasha on Sept 6, 2007 14:33:05 GMT -5
Trifling means to not take one seriously. "Heffa" is a young cow.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 14:47:28 GMT -5
Post by Traveling Man on Sept 6, 2007 14:47:28 GMT -5
Oh okay. Thanks for the translation. Re-reading my earlier post, I realize none of it makes any sense. I guess it's not supposed to considering the posters who post that nonsense.
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Day 10.
Sept 6, 2007 14:51:09 GMT -5
Post by Traveling Man on Sept 6, 2007 14:51:09 GMT -5
Anna's WTA profile picture is wow. She's fucking gorgeous.
Speaking of hot tennis players, anyone else remember the one year at RG when Lena D looked really, really, really HOT. I think it was 2005. She wore a pink dress too, kinda like the one Chak is wearing at the Open this year.
Chak, save the Open. Win it. Please?
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