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Post by fatboy aphex on Jun 8, 2004 17:25:00 GMT -5
As is the general consensus all over the world, Sweden is the overwhelming favourites to, erm, ... nothing, maybe injur some of the Danes' best players, I don't know. At least we have global superstars Ghod, Z-boy and Mr Underwear in our side. Or maybe not global but they're huge here in ... Sweden. Well as they say at the theatre before the show: Break the Danes' legs!
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Post by ILR on Jun 8, 2004 17:28:22 GMT -5
you made one Mr. Underwear! Boy do I miss his pink hair!! Go England! Oh god, I sooo hope Terry gets over his injury. He's not played at a big tourny like this before and probabl isn't likely to for a bit when Rio returns *sigh*
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Post by fatboy aphex on Jun 8, 2004 17:32:58 GMT -5
Well, most Swedes miss Mr Underwear's scoring in hte national side.
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Post by ILR on Jun 8, 2004 17:39:34 GMT -5
Aww, well to be honest I havent been keeping track of Freddie's national scoring rate, is it that bad? He did look good on the photos though
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Post by fatboy aphex on Jun 8, 2004 17:56:16 GMT -5
It's like 2 goals and umpteen missed sitters in 30-40 caps.
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Post by ILR on Jun 8, 2004 18:00:40 GMT -5
thats not so good But it beats Heskey with 5 goals in 40 odd caps. For a striker thats appalling. but we're always being told he brings so much to the team His main job though is to score goals as a striker, correct me if Im wrong lol.
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Post by fatboy aphex on Jun 8, 2004 18:07:45 GMT -5
Actually, his assist rate isn't that great either. To be honest, I don't know what he's done the last 4 years in the national squad. Except whining on the ref and missing practice matches that is. Henrik Larsson on the other hand before his, uhmm, "break": ;D Talk about being a one man show. He was the Swedish national squad between Euro 2000 and WC 2002.
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Post by ILR on Jun 8, 2004 18:23:25 GMT -5
Larsson is a great player ;D lol, who did Ljungberg have that trainign ground fight with during the WC, was it Mellberg?
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Post by fatboy aphex on Jun 8, 2004 18:28:04 GMT -5
Yes that was the Mellberg or Ollie or whatever it is they call him in Birmingham. He probably would have won too, if the fight hadn't been broken up Do you know Mellberg played tennis at a pretty high level until he was 14 when he suddenly switched to football?
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Post by ILR on Jun 8, 2004 18:31:38 GMT -5
lol Im not sure what they call him, I dont live in Birmingham or know of any Aston Villa fans You're probably right! I dont think Freddie would want to spoil his features! Nope, I never knew about that. Seems to have done ok out of footy though!
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Post by Kiro on Jun 9, 2004 0:46:27 GMT -5
Euro 2004 Thread I will switch my timetable to follow those matches, woohoo! I guess it will be easier than following tennis scores I like Sweden team too, but I'm not familiar with all these nick names of the players...so who is Mr. Underwear I've been a fan of German team for years. But I have to admit that they are in a terrible slump now and I might be scared if they beat NED or CZE, lol. I hope England, Czech, Italy do well. But I'm against France...sorry if there're any fans of French team here.
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Post by Patrik Sjöberg on Jun 9, 2004 2:18:59 GMT -5
Mr Underwear Kiro is Fredrik Ljungberg of Arsenal.
I will spend more of my time following this than the tennis, and I will only be posting here and on the MTF football thread, plus the other game.
This is one of the sports that I like to be played on natural grass.
I actually prefer football to tennis and come on Latvia and the Czech Republic.
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Post by Francine on Jun 9, 2004 4:35:54 GMT -5
Hup Holland! Clarence Seedorf won't be able to play against Germany, so now we're doomed. Although loosing to Ireland in Amsterdam last saturday didn't really make very hopeful to begin with. And loosing to Belgium the week before didn't do much good either. I've been a fan of German team for years. But I have to admit that they are in a terrible slump now and I might be scared if they beat NED or CZE, lol. You're a fan of Germany, omg.... How come? Is there a way I can save you?
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Post by fatboy aphex on Jun 9, 2004 5:32:40 GMT -5
Euro 2004 Thread I will switch my timetable to follow those matches, woohoo! I guess it will be easier than following tennis scores I like Sweden team too, but I'm not familiar with all these nick names of the players...so who is Mr. Underwear I've been a fan of German team for years. But I have to admit that they are in a terrible slump now and I might be scared if they beat NED or CZE, lol. I hope England, Czech, Italy do well. But I'm against France...sorry if there're any fans of French team here. Ghod=Celtic fans' name for Henrik Larsson Z-boy=my name for the sometimes immature Zlatan Ibrahimovic of Ajax
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Post by ILR on Jun 9, 2004 5:42:38 GMT -5
lol Francine GWH- I also prefer football to tennis, this is my number 1 sport. Im glad you're against France Kiro ;D Im really excited and nervous about our opening game against them on Sunday. But I do think that if we lose, we are good enough to beat Switzerland and Croatia.
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Post by Patrik Sjöberg on Jun 9, 2004 7:09:59 GMT -5
Ghod=Celtic fans' name for Henrik Larsson Z-boy=my name for the sometimes immature Zlatan Ibrahimovic of Ajax I love how Zlatan and John Carew are feuding all the time in the paper. I mean Carew has improved his technique, but he is no Kennet Andersson or Tore Andre Flo. Carew made fun of Z boy's tricks and Zlatan said what Carew can do with a football I can do with an orange.
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Post by Patrik Sjöberg on Jun 9, 2004 7:12:11 GMT -5
Hup Holland! Clarence Seedorf won't be able to play against Germany, so now we're doomed. Although loosing to Ireland in Amsterdam last saturday didn't really make very hopeful to begin with. And loosing to Belgium the week before didn't do much good either. You're a fan of Germany, omg.... How come? Is there a way I can save you? Seedorf that guy can't take penalties, then again not many Dutchies can. Kluivert shouldn't be playing for the national team, there are better players. Hopefully Sneijder, Van Der Vaart and Davids can do some good work. The only time I enjoy Germany is when they are beating England on penalties.
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Post by ILR on Jun 9, 2004 7:17:04 GMT -5
Seedorf that guy can't take penalties, then again not many Dutchies can. Kluivert shouldn't be playing for the national team, there are better players. Hopefully Sneijder, Van Der Vaart and Davids can do some good work. The only time I enjoy Germany is when they are beating England on penalties. Especially De Boer and Stam ;D In euro 2000 anyway lol. That wont happen again! Germany are in such bad form, I dont think they're going to do too well this year. They're in a tough group too.
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Post by Patrik Sjöberg on Jun 9, 2004 7:27:38 GMT -5
Especially De Boer and Stam ;D In euro 2000 anyway lol. That wont happen again! Germany are in such bad form, I dont think they're going to do too well this year. They're in a tough group too. Stam's penalty almost hit the roof of the Amsterdam Arena. I am still disappointed that they are playing there. Ajax's old stadium De Meer was great, a real football ground it had plenty of atmosphere and you can smell the football tradition, however it got knocked down. To me I don't care who wins Euro 2004 as long as it's not France, Germany or England. Porto winning the CL was good enough, Gaudio winning the French was great, now a non big nation winning Euro 2004 would be class as well.
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Post by ILR on Jun 9, 2004 7:32:47 GMT -5
It was a shocking penalty wasn't it. We're going to end up hating each other then for a couple of weeks What about Italy, Spain or Portugal? They're big footballing nations, even though Spain have underperformed in big tournaments. I dont think I could stand Italy winning. They were so bitter when they got knocked out of the World Cup, by complaining and kicking Ahn out of Serie A.
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Post by Francine on Jun 9, 2004 7:41:33 GMT -5
Especially De Boer and Stam ;D In euro 2000 anyway lol. There's nothing lol about that Dutch tv has showed a documentary about the Dutch way of approaching penalties; most players consider it a lotery and don't think training on them will help, no wonder we've never won a penalty shoot out. At euro 2000, 3 out of 5 players who took the penalties had never taken a penalty before, Stam, Bosvelt and another one who've I forgot. They had never ever ever taken a penalty in their entire proffesional career but had to take one because other players chickened out. And vd Sar has only helt 6% of the penalties taken at him, whereas Westerveld helt 15%, so that's also something to think about. Anyway, GWH, I agree with you on Kluivert, he should be send home. He can't play with van Nistelrooij, plus there are other young players who play better on his position. The last time Holland played a good match was against Scotland in november, Advocaat should stick to that team, with v. Nistelrooij, vd Vaart and Sneijder in a 4-3-3 system. He said he's going back to a 4-3-3 system after the match agasint Ireland. I've never liked Ajax, cause I'm a Utrecht/Feyenoord fan, so I've never been in their stadium. The Arena looks very impersonal, but it's all about the money.
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Post by Francine on Jun 9, 2004 7:46:41 GMT -5
It hardly ever happens that a surprise nation wins a football tourney, does it? Denmark in '92 is the only one I can recall.
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Post by ILR on Jun 9, 2004 7:47:23 GMT -5
sorry Francine, but the Stam penalty was so bad that it was funny. Unless you're Dutch of course Didn't De Boer also miss a pen in that game in normal time? Westerveld Awww, I thought he was quite decent at Liverpool, made a few bad errors but who doesn't. I think Kluivert has gone rapidly downhill, he's not the same player he was a couple of years ago. I read that Van Nistelrooy had blasted the Dutch fans about their behaviour in the papers yesterday and that Seedorf will refuse to play unless he is played in his favoured position. Is this true? Sounds like things are a bit dodgy in the Dutch camp.
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Post by Patrik Sjöberg on Jun 9, 2004 7:47:24 GMT -5
It was a shocking penalty wasn't it. We're going to end up hating each other then for a couple of weeks What about Italy, Spain or Portugal? They're big footballing nations, even though Spain have underperformed in big tournaments. I dont think I could stand Italy winning. They were so bitter when they got knocked out of the World Cup, by complaining and kicking Ahn out of Serie A. No more than usual or any England football fan, though I dislike hooligans more than usual. Spain haven't won anything at senior level since 1960. Raul is an overrated pansy, so they don't worry me. Portugal are not a big name football wise, the Netherlands are a bigger name than what Portugal are. I just want to see what tactics Luis Felipe Gene Hackman Scolari will come up with. Italy haven't won anything since 1982 and I would be in shock, if those metrosexuals actually did it, they have no creativity in the midfield, but I wouldn't care anyway, the WC conspiracy theories were funny nevertheless.
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Post by Patrik Sjöberg on Jun 9, 2004 7:50:09 GMT -5
It hardly ever happens that a surprise nation wins a football tourney, does it? Denmark in '92 is the only one I can recall. I was there for that what a great moment. Even though I am Norwegian, Göteborg was happening that night and there was plenty of love from the Swedes, Finns, Norwegians and everyone else that wasn't German to the Danish fans. I was there for the semi final and Guru Gullit and slow man Koeman got shown up and Van Basten missed the penalty what an irony.
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Post by ILR on Jun 9, 2004 7:51:17 GMT -5
No more than usual or any England football fan, though I dislike hooligans more than usual. Spain haven't won anything at senior level since 1960. Raul is an overrated pansy, so they don't worry me. Portugal are not a big name football wise, the Netherlands are a bigger name than what Portugal are. I just want to see what tactics Luis Felipe Gene Hackman Scolari will come up with. Italy haven't won anything since 1982 and I would be in shock, if those metrosexuals actually did it, they have no creativity in the midfield, but I wouldn't care anyway, the WC conspiracy theories were funny nevertheless. Me too. They give all the England fans such a bad name Overrated pansy nice. I think I prefer Morientes to him anyway. Portugal may not be that big a name but the tournament is being held on home soil for them and they have some bright young players. They do play attacking football and can be dangerous. I think they're ones to look out for. No, they haven't won anything for a wihle but they came very close last european champs and they do have some excellent defenders. Vieri hasnt been in the best of form lately and I really dont rate Totti much.
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Post by fatboy aphex on Jun 9, 2004 7:52:07 GMT -5
Well as long as Portugal, Spain, Russia, Greece, France, England, Croatia, Switzerland, Italy, Denmark, Bulgaria, Germany, Holland, Czech Rep. and Latvia don't win I'll be happy Not much chance for happiness, is there?
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Post by ILR on Jun 9, 2004 7:53:53 GMT -5
Well as long as Portugal, Spain, Russia, Greece, France, England, Croatia, Switzerland, Italy, Denmark, Bulgaria, Germany, Holland, Czech Rep. and Latvia don't win I'll be happy Not much chance for happiness, is there? Hehe, you dont have the best chance, no Stranger things have happened though!
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Post by Patrik Sjöberg on Jun 9, 2004 7:55:56 GMT -5
Anyway, GWH, I agree with you on Kluivert, he should be send home. He can't play with van Nistelrooij, plus there are other young players who play better on his position. The last time Holland played a good match was against Scotland in november, Advocaat should stick to that team, with v. Nistelrooij, vd Vaart and Sneijder in a 4-3-3 system. He said he's going back to a 4-3-3 system after the match agasint Ireland. I've never liked Ajax, cause I'm a Utrecht/Feyenoord fan, so I've never been in their stadium. The Arena looks very impersonal, but it's all about the money. Well penalty training helped the Germans, the Argentines and the Brazilians, though Martin Palermo missed 3 pens in the same match. At the same time I don't rate Van Nistelrooij that highly either, then again I will look at all the squads later and see for myself. Then again the Dutch players are always whining, but Kluivert is shit. I mean WC 98 vs Brazil summed it up the Brazilians marked Bergkamp out of the game and didn't bother with Kluivert too much, they had heaps of chances of Kluivert missed too many. Actually I prefer Heerenveen in Eredvise, but I would rather Ajax over Feyenoord and especially over PSV. Westerveld does quite well in Spain, now Heart Attack Houllier is gone there maybe some hope for Liverpool.
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Post by ILR on Jun 9, 2004 7:58:31 GMT -5
Hopefully. Im still awaiting news on Rafael Benitez. I heard that if he does come then he will have a huge clearout, which is exactly what we need. Have too much deadwood in our squad.
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