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Post by Wagasi on Nov 12, 2006 11:34:56 GMT -5
OH SWEET SWEET ZOMBIE JESUS I WAS WRONG! win wimby next year and retire
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Post by Traveling Man on Nov 12, 2006 11:36:34 GMT -5
Congrats Juju. Validates the #1 ranking, to quite an extent. Well done.
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Post by janie on Nov 12, 2006 11:41:12 GMT -5
Congrats Juju. Validates the #1 ranking, to quite an extent. Well done.
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Post by Wagasi on Nov 12, 2006 11:41:51 GMT -5
ok, which middle aged lesbian admin is trying to pass off as !!davenport!! ?
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Post by :rolleyes: on Nov 12, 2006 12:02:35 GMT -5
Wimbledon loss to Mauresmo is avenged!!! I told you Sjengster2, Justine does not lose to the same player twice in a row.
I'm not counting the RR match since it was a dead rubber from JHH's perspective
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Post by janie on Nov 12, 2006 12:10:23 GMT -5
MADRID (Reuters) - Belgium's Justine Henin-Hardenne claimed the first WTA Championships of her career when she beat Amelie Mauresmo 6-4 6-3 in an absorbing exhibition of high-quality tennis in Sunday's final. Henin-Hardenne, who will succeed Mauresmo as world number one when the final rankings of the year are released on Monday, played some immaculate tennis [despite all the breaks??] as she closed out the defending champion in straight sets in a fitting end to the season. The victory gave the three-times Roland Garros champion some revenge for her losses to the Frenchwoman in the finals of the Australian Open and Wimbledon this year. Henin-Hardenne, who reached the final of all four grand slam tournaments this season is the first player since Martina Hingis in 2000 to win the Championships and end the year as number one.
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Post by DBBN on Nov 12, 2006 12:39:20 GMT -5
win wimby next year and retire Justine won the YEC! Woo hoo! Woo hoo!
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Post by janie on Nov 12, 2006 12:45:39 GMT -5
Henin-Hardenne is the first player since Steffi Graf in 1993 to reach all four Grand Slams finals and the WTA Championships final in the same year, and only the fifth ever.
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Post by janie on Nov 12, 2006 12:56:41 GMT -5
The French former number one admitted, "She played better than me.
"I was not serving as well as I wanted to. I've given up a lot of energy over the last few days but that's the way it is. I was a little tired after yesterday but we're all the same so that's no excuse.
"I am a little disappointed but you can't always get the titles. I'm now looking forward to 2007"
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Post by Grarliner on Nov 12, 2006 13:01:10 GMT -5
Wimbledon loss to Mauresmo is avenged!!! I told you Sjengster2, Justine does not lose to the same player twice in a row. I'm not counting the RR match since it was a dead rubber from JHH's perspective Uh huh. Good for Justine. This is a good rivalry. Reprised in Australia?
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Post by Calico on Nov 12, 2006 13:33:02 GMT -5
Congrats to Justine on winning the YEC. But Mauresmo is still Player of the Year in my view because she won 2 grand slams to Henin's one.
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Post by janie on Nov 12, 2006 13:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by Pamela Shriver on Nov 12, 2006 19:24:33 GMT -5
Congrats to Justine on winning the YEC. But Mauresmo is still Player of the Year in my view because she won 2 grand slams to Henin's one. And Justine reached all four slam finals, won the YEC, and five other tournaments. She's the #1, and she deserves it.
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Post by lisab on Nov 12, 2006 21:11:50 GMT -5
JHH got a record breaking (well not really) 61% 1st serves in..wining 88% of them. Her serve is definitely the key to finishing off these matches.
AS for the quality, I don't know why so many reports call it high.lol. It wasn't the best,( it certainly was better than any match played at the USO this year.lol.) especially when JHH would play some really bad games to lose serve immediately after she broke. But the girls played every shot in the book, and the rallies were pretty long at times with every spin you can think of.
JHH is one pretty speedy chick. I liked how she handled Ame's moonballs, pretty good.
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Post by janie on Nov 12, 2006 21:21:13 GMT -5
I thought it was really entertaining tennis (now that I've watched the Versus taped coverage!). What a treat to see both players at the net frequently, and as you say, with so much variety of shots/spins/angles, everything. Justine did blow quite a few of those net points, it's true. But she looked SO determined and so focussed! I thought today, she was the hungrier of the two. Anyway, it's great she finally has one of these. The list of winners would look oddly incomplete without her name, as it looks odd to see Venus' name missing.
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Post by leelee on Nov 12, 2006 21:49:33 GMT -5
Congrats to Justine on winning the YEC. But Mauresmo is still Player of the Year in my view because she won 2 grand slams to Henin's one. Most years, I would agree. However, reaching the final of every GS is special. Combine that with Justine winning YEC, winning more titles during the year (5 to 4), and a significantly better overall record (60-8 to 51-14), I must go with Justine.
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Post by leelee on Nov 12, 2006 21:53:39 GMT -5
How is it odd for a player who never finished year-end #1 to have her name missing.
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Post by Grarliner on Nov 13, 2006 1:51:54 GMT -5
How is it odd for a player who never finished year-end #1 to have her name missing. It isn't, if you want to look at it through that specious lens. Too bad, though, Venus rarely bothered to play. As for the #1 ranking, I'm fine with Justine having it. She had a better overall season than Amelie and won one Slam. Player of the year? Now that's a bit of a different debate. But ... hard to quibble with selecting either Amelie or Justine.
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Post by Traveling Man on Nov 13, 2006 6:04:03 GMT -5
Henin-Hardenne is the first player since Steffi Graf in 1993 to reach all four Grand Slams finals and the WTA Championships final in the same year, and only the fifth ever. Oh, Monica did that too. ;D
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Post by lisab on Nov 13, 2006 14:48:01 GMT -5
the 2 gs would make for a better argument if it were followed up with some CONSISTENCY. lol. It's almost as if Ame got lucky with that gs when I consider some of her bad bad play this year.lol. But in at least 2 slams, she managed to win it (albeit with the help of 3 retirements at AO), and then fluttered around the rest of the year.
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Post by Calico on Nov 13, 2006 19:47:37 GMT -5
If I was a tennis player I would rather have Mauresmo's year than Henin's year becaue Amelie won 2 grand slams to Henin's 1 and beat Henin in 2 grand slam finals. But I will be okay if Henin is named 2006 Player of the Year because she won the French Open, made all 4 grand slam finals and won the YEC (even though she lost a match ) and beat Sharapova and Mauresmo back to back in straight sets to win the title. That was impressive. But not quite as impressive as Mauresmo beating Henin in their 2 grand slam finals this year.
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Post by leelee on Nov 13, 2006 20:08:24 GMT -5
It really comes down to how a person judges the rest of the year besides the slams...
Because post-Antwerp, Amelie was very mediocre in all the regular events.
Then again, Justine wasn't hot stuff either... as neither Justine nor Amelie won a Tier I. But, then we're bringing up the argument that are Tier I's really stronger than Tier II's, and we don't need to go into that.
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Post by Grarliner on Nov 13, 2006 22:36:21 GMT -5
the 2 gs would make for a better argument if it were followed up with some CONSISTENCY. lol. It's almost as if Ame got lucky with that gs when I consider some of her bad bad play this year.lol. But in at least 2 slams, she managed to win it (albeit with the help of 3 retirements at AO), and then fluttered around the rest of the year. That's ridiculous. Inconsistent? Amelie was quite consistent. Two first-match exits (Sydney, Yeastbourne), everything else a QF, SF, F or W (four).
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Post by R. Black on Nov 13, 2006 23:55:00 GMT -5
They're basically equal. It's silly to argue one is more deserving of player of the year more than the other.
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Post by R. Black on Nov 13, 2006 23:55:21 GMT -5
retire
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Post by leelee on Nov 14, 2006 9:49:04 GMT -5
the 2 gs would make for a better argument if it were followed up with some CONSISTENCY. lol. It's almost as if Ame got lucky with that gs when I consider some of her bad bad play this year.lol. But in at least 2 slams, she managed to win it (albeit with the help of 3 retirements at AO), and then fluttered around the rest of the year. That's ridiculous. Inconsistent? Amelie was quite consistent. Two first-match exits (Sydney, Yeastbourne), everything else a QF, SF, F or W (four). When you're going for player of the year, that's usually not good enough. Especially against someone who has a much more consistent record.
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Post by Traveling Man on Nov 14, 2006 10:31:28 GMT -5
I'd give the nod to Amelie, only because when push came to shove (the 2 GS finals), she was the better player of the two (if not healthier!).
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Post by Calico on Nov 14, 2006 12:34:19 GMT -5
It really is a close call as to who should be the WTA Tour Player of the Year. I think Mauresmo should win but will accept Henin winning it because Justine overall had a tremendous year in the big events.
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Post by lisab on Nov 14, 2006 16:05:22 GMT -5
There is no question that Henin is the player of the year. None. I would take her year anyday over Amelie's. If GS were all they had to play fine...but there is a whole yr. to deal with. Amelie played 17 tournies, or 18, and was barely impressive in a handful of them.
Sjengster...yea to what lelee say; it doesn't compare to Henin's or Shara for that matter where consistency is concerned. Half of the time she wasn't even convincing in her play.
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Post by DBBN on Nov 14, 2006 17:43:09 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain neither one of them would trade their year for the other's.
JHH should be Player of the Year because she won six titles and finished #1. Amelie should be ITF World Champion because she won two Slams. End.
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